Column "push back"

OK, next rules minutae; which came up last week.

2 elements are in column. The first element is contacted on the side so it will turn to face. The second element "pushes back" to make room.

If the side contacting element has a flanker (2 units in line), the element which pushed back is now in corner to corner with the flanker. Does it turn to face also?

If not, does it in anyway negate the overlap of the flanker?

Thanks,

John

Originally Posted by John Loy

OK, next rules minutae; which came up last week.

2 elements are in column. The first element is contacted on the side so it will turn to face. The second element "pushes back" to make room.

If the side contacting element has a flanker (2 units in line), the element which pushed back is now in corner to corner with the flanker. Does it turn to face also?

If not, does it in anyway negate the overlap of the flanker?

Thanks,

John

The second element does not push back, it either turns also, behind the first, or stays where it is, depending on the depth of the front element.
"If an element so contacts the flanks of 2 enemy elements, both these turn, the 2nd moving to behind the 1st. A 3rd element is pushed back clear."

If the front element is a base width or more deep, then only it turns to face. If it is less than a base width deep, then the second turns also.

Anyway, a third element pushs back such that it is now lined up with the first attacker's partner, and so would also turn to face.

If the second element in the column does not also turn behind the first then it too is in a legal flank contact with the other attacking element in line so would turn to face.

Originally Posted by John Loy

OK, next rules minutae; which came up last week.

2 elements are in column. The first element is contacted on the side so it will turn to face. The second element "pushes back" to make room.

Error.

p10: if you contact the flanks of two elements (hitting the front one legally so it will turn to face), they BOTH turn -- the second element behind the first one, so they end up a little column facing the new guy.

The THIRD element (if any) pushes back to make room, if necessary. It is only necessary if the front two elements are on 15mm deep bases.

Thanks, we did it wrong

John

Originally Posted by David Kuijt

Error.
It is only necessary if the front two elements are on 15mm deep bases.

I think happens when the sum of the front two elements depth is less than a base width. So 2 Blade size bases (2x 15mm in 15mm scale or 2x20mm in 25mm scale) OR a Blade size and a Ps size (15mm + 20mm, 20mm + 30mm)

OK, then the third unit would turn to face the flank/overlap unit?

John

Originally Posted by John Loy

OK, then the third unit would turn to face the flank/overlap unit?

John

You don't believe me? This is what I wrote in my first response.

ooops missed it, sorry!

John