Sub-generals... +1 combat modifier?

In Big Battle, do sub-generals get the +1 combat modifier that normal generals get in regular DBA? I'm not referring to the once-per-game modifier that the CinC gets, but the standard general's modifier.

Eric

Only the C-i-C gets the +1 modifier.

I disagree. I believe that all GENERALS (C-in-C, sub-generals, ally generals) get the +1 modifier in combat.

The actual language is:

"+1 If the general's element; and either in close combat or being shot at".

In other places, the rules distinguish things specifically applicable to the C-in-C, so I think using the term "general" refers to all generals.

I'm with Mark -- all three generals get the +1 in usual combat (as compared to the "miracle-save" one-shot +1).

There are no "sub-generals" in BBDBA. There are 2 generals and a CinC (some may be ally generals) . In standard DBA, all Generals get a +1, as noted below. There is no change from standard DBA to BBDBA on this rule.

I know that the wording can get quite tangled, but even then, SOME wording IS quite clear.... all Gen get the +1, in normal combat, no "think" about it [img]smile.gif[/img]

Lee

That is what I assumed... but someone I played a game of Big Battle with was quite certain that the "non-CinC" generals did not get the +1 modifier...

Is it different in DBM? Is is possible that he's carrying something over from DBM?

Eric

Originally posted by Ares:


Is it different in DBM? Is is possible that he's carrying something over from DBM?

Eric

No, it's the same in DBM.

I suspect your opponent was confusing the normal +1 general bonus with the one time additional +1 for the CinC.

Originally posted by Ares:
That is what I assumed... but someone I played a game of Big Battle with was quite certain that the "non-CinC" generals did not get the +1 modifier...

Is it different in DBM? Is is possible that he's carrying something over from DBM?

Eric

I may be wrong, but I believe that in DBAOL a programming omission means that only the C-in-C gets the +1. The other two generals (wrongly) get no modifier. So if your informant has played multi-general DBAOL this may be the source of the confusion.

Kim

"+1 If the general's element; and either in close combat or being shot at".

This means THE general of the army, not some sub-general or allied-general, duke, marshall or whatever. Only THE army's general gets the +1 modifier. Else the rule would say "+1 If a general's element; and either in close combat or being shot at".

and it does not. So IMO only the C-i-C gets the +1.

But it doesn't really matter if sides agree beforehand to give the modifier to all generals or to THE general [img]smile.gif[/img]

Cheers,

Anton