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Old 01-04-2013, 07:16 PM
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Default Early Austrians

Did the pre-Austrian 1805-6 where a metal helmet rather than shako? I have some figures with helmet with horse hair on top, don't know maker? I was wondering if these are Austrians or some other country?

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Old 01-04-2013, 08:33 PM
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The casque or smallish shako was phased out prior to the Marengo campaign and replaced by the helmet with worsted roll, usually seen trimmed in yellow.

https://www.google.nl/search?q=austr...iw=975&bih=691

Do you have a photo of the figure, as you may be describing a non Austrian uniform, possibly Wurttemberg.

Scroll down to Wurttemberg Light Infantry:
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=249456
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:02 AM
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Robert, thanks it is an Austrian helmet as pictured in the references you posted.

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The Funken series of books on the Napoleonic wars had many illustrations of early Austrian infantry and cavalry uniforms if you can gain access to them.I think volume 2 had the Austrian uniforms.
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The Funken series of books on the Napoleonic wars had many illustrations of early Austrian infantry and cavalry uniforms if you can gain access to them.I think volume 2 had the Austrian uniforms.
Unfortunately Funken is not too good on the Austrians, 5 pages does not provide much and nothing pre the helmet described.

Other sources suggest that the Casquet was replaced in 1798 by the helmet and that the helmet was replaced in 1806, although still in use during the 1809 campaign, by the Shako.

The helmet was made of black leather with a black and yellow woollen crest and brass front plate with the Emperor's cipher. The crest was short, no flying horsehair.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:52 PM
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Hi

the Austrian infantry wore the classical helmet from approx 1798 to 1809, with some units wearing the old casket at the start of the period and the shako coming in at the end of this period.

so that would cover three of the big campaigns - 1800 Marengo, 1805 Austerlitz and 1809 Wagram - the first and last being close run things from Napoleons point of view.

it was also worn by the troops of Wutzburg, a small German statelet, who were allied to the French and fought against the Spainish and Austrians (and maybe the Prussians - Russians in 1806/07). Practically the same uniform as the standard Austrian one with red facings.

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