9th Annual HMGS-GL BBDBA Tournament

[John Loy]

OK, just got confirmation from New Song.

We are approved for August 22 for the incredible 9th Annual Big Battle DBA Tournament hosted by HMGS-GL!

As always loaners are available. For any questions, email me.

New email: jloy@windstream.net

John

[Danjay]

IHOG will be there in all it's "Glory" .... is that the right word :D
Dan

[John Loy]

IHOG will be there in all it's "Glory" .... is that the right word :D
Dan


C'mon Dan; quit trying to scare everyone away:silly

John

[miros]

The premier BBDBA tournament in the known universe. Well worth the trip.

Jason

[Mike Demana]

So, will you be returning to defend your first place finish in your bracket, from 2008? You know you have free places to stay in Columbus!

[John Loy]

The premier BBDBA tournament in the known universe. Well worth the trip.

Jason

As spoken, honestly; by the man who come the farthest:2up

John

[miros]

So, will you be returning to defend your first place finish in your bracket, from 2008? You know you have free places to stay in Columbus!

I was looking at airfares yesterday and they are still a little high; I will wait and see if they drop.

[John Loy]

I was looking at airfares yesterday and they are still a little high; I will wait and see if they drop.

If you start hitching about the 19th, you should make it - no sweat !


:rolleyes


John

[Frizzenspark]

And if you don't mind the sweat, you can start walking and still make it on time :)

[Andy Swingle]

I am wondering with the tourney coming up in a month and a half.. Does anyone have 5 war wagons i could borrow for the tourney?;)

[John Loy]

I have them , Andy.

John

[philistinejim]

I am wondering with the tourney coming up in a month and a half.. Does anyone have 5 war wagons i could borrow for the tourney?;)


NO but I have at leat a half dozen ARTILLERY elements.

Still, real men run spears.

Cheers

Jim K

[Kontos]

NO but I have at leat a half dozen ARTILLERY elements.

Still, real men run spears.

Cheers

Jim K
Correction. Real men run hordes. Oh, I forgot. You're from Ohio. :D

Frank

[John Loy]

Correction. Real men run hordes. Oh, I forgot. You're from Ohio. :D

Frank

Of course, in Ohio Hordes are rated the same as spears for the rest of the country:up

John

[Kontos]

And they QK Knights. You guys are goooood. :D

Frank

[Spencer]

What are the start and end times for this event?
How long for each round?
Which rules set do you use? 2.0, 2.2 or the NASAMW rules mod?

[Andy Swingle]

2.2 rules, I do not know the NASAMW rules mod.:) We do not play with BUA or rivers.

[John Loy]

Start at 10:00. 3 rounds I can't remember whether we ran 2 or 2.5 hour rounds (I think 2.5):eek

I have let the final run longer of it was the championship.

Nasamw rules are used (60" boards) actually you can use a river but I've never seen one- good way to no finish although less so in Big Battle that normal size. No BUA though, substitute a road.

We will brackett by period, depends on how many attendees but no more than 8 per.

Plenty of loaner armies available.

John

[Spencer]

Thanks John,

I was considering a fly in fly out same day from Baltimore to Columbus.
Southwest has $49 each way....cheaper than gas for me I think and shorter travel time. Would meet the Travel/Game Time ratio as DK says.

Unfortunately they don't have flights early enough in the AM that day.

[John Loy]

Well, I think it would be worthwhile if several of you car pooled. Take turns driving etc.

Jack came by himself a couple of years ago.........and won.:rolleyes


John

[fatcat217]

I'll be there with woad on..And i'll have armies to sell. Triple Aztec with ally, Triple Ming with Tibetans, Triple Indian with Tamil figs., Samurai and a couple of Hott armies.

[John Loy]

We will post pics of the woad.

Suitably edited for family viewing of course.:eek

John

[jengt]

John, you said at Origins that you had some new acquisitions for loaners. Do you have an updated list?

[Andy Swingle]

Hmmm, I MIGHT be interested in the Tamil Indian.. What list is Ming? I can't seem to find it.(I'm actually just lazy):D

[fatcat217]

The classical and Tamil armies are 90% old glory with essex elephants. The armies are built to use each others stands ..I meant to sell them in the case/box with dice and camps and the odd Hott unit included. Ming are book 4/73. Tibetans incude 20 Kn4s.

[Andy Swingle]

Oh, you are selling all three as one lot? I was just interested in the one army.. I will bring cash just in case.:)

[John Loy]

There are many good and a few "challenging" loaners available.

Let me know and I will email you a list.

This way you can fly, hitchhike, bike or jog to the tourney and not have to worry about packing the lead:up


John

[fatcat217]

Andy, All Indians in one box, all aztec in one box etc. There are 9 elephants, 9 charoits, 9 Kn, 3 arty., 2 camps, and at least 70 infantry stands. And the case they're in.

[John Loy]

OK, we are 4 weeks away from the premier Big Battle Tournament of the year.

We have a small format change this year.

Zeke has volunteered to run the tourney, so that I can be assured of playing. Zeke will fill in if there is an odd number; otherwise he will collect the scores, make the pairings etc.
I will provide the logistics as usual.

In return; I will swap jobs for Zeke's HOTTWAX tournament.

A win/win all around:2up


John

[Frizzenspark]

You Both Are Up To Something!!!!!!!!!!

[Zekestrom]

Who, us? Nonsense! Nothing to see here, move along ...

*whistles softly* :rolleyes

[John Loy]

Uh, certainly. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain;)

John

[Pthomas]

I haven't played DBA in a long time. When was the last time?

Oh yes, when I was thrashed at HoTT by Paul Potter's daughter.

I'm looking for revenge. Paul, does she want a piece of me?:-)

Bring it on!

[John Loy]

Wow, you've been sulking a long time:eek

John

[Pthomas]

Wow, you've been sulking a long time:eek

John

Sulking! I've been training with a retired Russian Field Marshal! Marshal Vladimir Crushyourdreamsovich!

I'm fit, I'm trim, I'm ready!

Well, I'm ready, anyway!

[Pthomas]

OK, just got confirmation from New Song.

We are approved for August 22 for the incredible 9th Annual Big Battle DBA Tournament hosted by HMGS-GL!

As always loaners are available. For any questions, email me.

New email: jloy@windstream.net

John

Two weeks and two days to go!

[Andy Swingle]

Looking forward to it! I still do not know which army i am gonna play.:o

[Pthomas]

13873 National Road
Reynoldsburg, OH
43068

Located on Rt. 40 between Mink and
Taylor Roads just one mile east of
Taylor Rd. on Main St. from
Reynoldsburg or just west of Carter
Lumber on National Rd. from Pataskala
on the south side.

[Mike Demana]

I also don't know what I'm going to play.

Andy: Does this mean you've reconsidered the War-wagon idea? That would be good news, and would open up a whole section of the army lists for consideration (I hate War-wagons, in case you couldn't tell!)...

Looking forward to it!

[Andy Swingle]

I was wanting to do it.. Because i never done it before.. Then i was looking and you can't take Polish allies like you can in FOG... So.. I would have alot of ties.. So back to the drawing board.;) I was looking at pre-islamic arab for fun.. Dunno.. Probably wont know till the night before the tourney. For some reason i wanted to take an army with camels... But not Taureg.. I want something with a bit of hitting power in the army. I was gonna borrow troops from Doug Anderson to fill out what i need.

[jengt]

Still don't know which army I'm going to borrow. I've got to sit down with my rules & John's list to see what sounds interesting this time.

Hey John, what's been taken from the list?

[Pthomas]

I have decided to bring something weighty and pointy...

[John Loy]

Nothing has been claimed so far.

First come first served:eek


John

[Zekestrom]

Silly Italian Kah'niggits for me, assuming I'm called into service to play. :)

[John Loy]

Silly Italian Kah'niggits for me, assuming I'm called into service to play. :)

Well, at least they don't dismount!:rolleyes


John

[Mike Demana]

I'm thinking I'm going to give the Avars a try, again. My last experience with them was they were the "neither fish nor fowl" problem: Mounted army with a large Auxilia contingent. I think it was partially my mentally getting locked into command sizes and not being flexible and changing things once I see the terrain.

[John Loy]

Well, just let me know so we can be in opposite bracketts and avoid the dice jinx:eek

John

[Little Caesar]

I think it was partially my mentally getting locked into command sizes and not being flexible and changing things once I see the terrain.

Plus my dazzling display of dizzy dicemanship left you down and drawn.

Hard to win with a draw and I had two last summer!

Good luckk this year and have fun all.
Steve

[miros]

Wish I could make it this year!

Jason

[Mike Demana]

Yeah, you could defend your tiara, er crown! We'll be thinking about you on Saturday...as a matter of fact, Jenny must be channeling you as she still hasn't decided which army to play. That's always been one of your traits -- waiting till day of to officially decide which army to play!!!

[jengt]

Hey, I finally decided. I just hope nobody has beaten me to it, again.

I've already set the tiara, scepter and banner out so I don't forget them. One of these days I'm going to win this thing so the tiara doesn't look so foolish on the Queen of the Universe's head. Although, it is funny to see you guys fighting for the chance.

[John Loy]

Hey, I finally decided. I just hope nobody has beaten me to it, again.

I've already set the tiara, scepter and banner out so I don't forget them. One of these days I'm going to win this thing so the tiara doesn't look so foolish on the Queen of the Universe's head. Although, it is funny to see you guys fighting for the chance.


FOOLISH!!

I thought it looked appropriate on all that have won it so far:up

John

[Pthomas]

Hey, I finally decided. I just hope nobody has beaten me to it, again.

I've already set the tiara, scepter and banner out so I don't forget them. One of these days I'm going to win this thing so the tiara doesn't look so foolish on the Queen of the Universe's head. Although, it is funny to see you guys fighting for the chance.

The Queen of the Universe is not a title to be lightly scorned!

[John Loy]

Does this mean we will get to see your smiling face on Saturday:eek


John

[Frizzenspark]

The Queen of the Universe is not a title to be lightly scorned!

William Congreve said it best when he said:

Hell has no fury like The Queen of the Universe scorn'd.....:rolleyes

[John Loy]

Getting down to the wire to request loaners.

Don't wait till Friday night - I might not have time to get to it:sick


John

[Pthomas]

Does this mean we will get to see your smiling face on Saturday:eek


John

I certainly hope to show my smiling face...

[Pthomas]

So who is confirmed as attending?

[jengt]

So who is confirmed as attending?

Mike & I will be there. You'll know me...I'll be the one wearing the tiara. :rotfl

[John Loy]

Mike & I will be there. You'll know me...I'll be the one wearing the tiara. :rotfl


Until the actual gaming starts:rolleyes

John

[Andy Swingle]

I am going to have a try with LIR.. With maybe a Pre-Islamic arab ally just for fun, does anyone have 3 arab blades? I only have 3 spear(i can proxy them as blades i guess).. Never done a big battle with them before.:)

[fatcat217]

I'll be there.. however, the wife is trying to talk me into wearing a kilt....?

[John Loy]

I'll be there.. however, the wife is trying to talk me into wearing a kilt....?


Arrgh, mental image won't go away:eek


John

[Zekestrom]

I am going to have a try with LIR.. With maybe a Pre-Islamic arab ally just for fun, does anyone have 3 arab blades? I only have 3 spear(i can proxy them as blades i guess).. Never done a big battle with them before.:)
x3 or x4, and how many? I've got some x3 axemen which might work for you. I'll toss them in the box regardless.

[Andy Swingle]

The blades are 4bd.. I need 3 stands of them.:) My arabs are actually Fanatic Berber.. But they look the same 1000 years earlier.:D

[Pthomas]

The blades are 4bd.. I need 3 stands of them.:) My arabs are actually Fanatic Berber.. But they look the same 1000 years earlier.:D

Clearly, not many Fashionistas among the Berbers!

[John Loy]

LAST CALL FOR LOANERS!!!

See every one there tomorrow.

John

[Pthomas]

No one can stop me from claiming my rightful place as Queen of the Universe!

Kilt or no kilt!

Friends, Romans or country(wo)men!

To B2B or B2C!

The fur will fly!

The fires will burn down below!

[John Loy]

There are so many straight lines in there that it defies any attempts:silly

John

[jengt]

No one can stop me from claiming my rightful place as Queen of the Universe!

Friends, Romans or country(wo)men!

But Bob said he's not playing Romans! :D

[John Loy]

Bob; thought it was a themed tourney. I corrected him so he's back in his comfort zone:rolleyes

John

[Spencer]

We want play by play results as soon as you get them guys!!!!!

Make sure you have a laptop and wireless internet set up.........

[Frizzenspark]

:sick I had a great time, though I came in last place............:eek

[John Loy]

18 players. I want to thanks all those who made it another fun tournament. I'll get the results posted tomorrow.

John

[Mike Demana]

Should I steal some of John's thunder...? Nah. I will let you know that Ptom was NOT Queen of the Universe. The person who beat him in the first round ended up wearing the tiara and holding the sceptre. No, wasn't me!

Though, I did go 3-0 and win the Later Bracket. I was edged out by the aforementiond NEW Queen of the Universe on points...thankfully. The expression on my face at having my picture taken with a tiara and sceptre would have been even more mournful than our new Queen's.

Many thanks to all who attended...especially those that drove great distances, including:
John Lawitzke (5 hour drive from Michigan)
Rich Kurman and Bruce Woodworth (drove down form northern Ohio)
Dan Joyce and Jim Yencer (down from Lima, OH)
Bob Boggs (from Springfield)
-- and of course to all the locals who made it! 18 players, up a couple from the Post-Tax Day BBDBA, made for 3 brackets of 6.

Special thanks to John Loy for hosting (organizing, providing prizes & food) and Zeke for running (so that John could play) -- you guys are the best!!! As I said, I remember the old days, when only one or two of us ran events. It's folks like you that make it so much more fun to participate in these events, since so many of us pitch in and GM, nowadays...!

[Frizzenspark]

As part of the play-by-play we had sloppy-joes instead of hot-dogs...an interesting strategy.

[Dave Welch]

I was edged out by the aforementiond NEW Queen of the Universe on points...thankfully.

And John Loy mentioned that you were trying to lose a few extra stands in the last round to secure the 2nd place finish... Now who is the meta-gamer? ;)

[jengt]

Well, I had 0 chance of walking away with the tiara this year. (Wait a minute, I keep it here at my house. So, in a way, I DID walk away with it! :silly )

I played the Ancient Spanish with a total of 6 mounted, 18 Aux & 12 Psiloi. I lost the first 2 terrain rolls and was up against lots of mounted & blades on WIDE OPEN boards. There was nowhere to hide all of my "bad going" troops. I must say though, I had the most fun I've had playing big battle in a LONG time! Maybe that's the key, take the craziest, most off the wall army & just wing it.

It was good to see everyone & I truly enjoyed seeing the new Queen of the Universe crowned!!!

[Pthomas]

Once more denied the title!

Woad with me!

Whoa with me!

Woe with me?

Pictures! Pictures! Pictures!

[Kontos]

It was good to see everyone & I truly enjoyed seeing the new Queen of the Universe crowned!!!

Ahem, "Queen of the Midwest" may be more appropriate? ;)

Frank

[John Loy]

DRUM ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We had 18 players in 3 -6 player bracketts.

In an effort to reduce "civil wars" we commingled the first 2 bracketts which were all book I/II armies. The third brackett was every one else.

Early/Early Brackett:
Dave Welch NKE 3-0 280points
Tom Graves Alex Imperial/ Classic Indian Ally 2-1 197points
Rich Kurman Seleucid 1-2 126points
Jeff Fletcher NKE 1-2 110points
Bob Boggs EIR/ Commagene Ally 1-2 102points
Derek Wegener Han Chinese 0-3 10points

Not Quite so Early Brackett:
John Lawitzke NKE 2-1 207points
Bruce Woodworth Marian/ Numidian Ally 2-1 183points
Tim Ryan Galatian 1-2 126points
Dan Joyce Graeco-Bactrian 1-2 100points
Dylan Fraser Sassanid 1-2 98points
Jenny Torbett Ancient Spanish 0-3 38points

Later Brackett:
Mike Demana Avar 3-0 266points
Allen Sams Later Hungarian 2-1 194points
John Loy Rus 1-2 121points
Jim Yencer French Ordonnance/ Swiss Ally 1-2 117points
Andy Swingle LIR/ Later Isalmic Ally 1-2 112points
Jonathan Wegener Post Mongol Samurai 1-2 90points


And thusly we have the new QUEEN OF THE UNIVERSE:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/jengt123/Big%20Battle%2009/IMG_2516a_1.jpg


John

[John Loy]

Ahem, "Queen of the Midwest" may be more appropriate? ;)

Frank

You're just jealous!:silly


John

[Mike Demana]

Nah, no meta-gaming on my end...I was joking. I tried my hardest to finish John Loy off as quickly as I could, but he hung on tenaciously. The game itself could have gone a different way if his pip dice had not been so awful. Included in his command rolls were turns when he rolled for pips:
1-1-1
1-1-2
1-1-2
1-2-2
Nasty! But then again, he mostly kept his spear wall together, so minimized his handicap. My cavalry and light horse kept giving ground, being forced to flee in the center, while we kept winning on the wings. The key point in our game was when he had his spear line wade in to contest a large woods against my Auxilia line. That was where he lost the bulk of his troops, and in my opinion, the battle.

So, though I joked about taking some losses to avoid the tiara, you won it fair and square with your extremely minimal losses over the course of your three games, Dave!

[Frizzenspark]

Ahem, "Queen of the Midwest" may be more appropriate? ;)

Frank


Yah, but the Midwest IS the universe...Great Lakes Region even more so :)

[Kontos]

DRUM ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We had 18 players in 3 -6 player bracketts.

In an effort to reduce "civil wars" we commingled the first 2 bracketts which were all book I/II armies. The third brackett was every one else.

Early/Early Brackett:
Dave Welch NKE 3-0 280points
Tom Graves Alex Imperial/ Classic Indian Ally 2-1 197points
Rich Kurman Seleucid 1-2 126points
Jeff Fletcher NKE 1-2 110points
Bob Boggs EIR/ Commagene Ally 1-2 102points
Derek Wegener Han Chinese 0-3 10points

Not Quite so Early Brackett:
John Lawitzke NKE 2-1 207points
Bruce Woodworth Marian/ Numidian Ally 2-1 183points
Tim Ryan Galatian 1-2 126points
Dan Joyce Graeco-Bactrian 1-2 100points
Dylan Fraser Sassanid 1-2 98points
Jenny Torbett Ancient Spanish 0-3 38points

Later Brackett:
Mike Demana Avar 3-0 266points
Allen Sams Later Hungarian 2-1 194points
John Loy Rus 1-2 121points
Jim Yencer French Ordonnance/ Swiss Ally 1-2 117points
Andy Swingle LIR/ Later Isalmic Ally 1-2 112points
Jonathan Wegener Post Mongol Samurai 1-2 90points


And thusly we have the new QUEEN OF THE UNIVERSE:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/jengt123/Big%20Battle%2009/IMG_2516a_1.jpg


John

My wife has tiara envy. :D

[Dave Welch]

I did finally beat Tom Graves at DBA. However, my victory was achieved before we were even matched up! I found that the key to beating Tom is to loan him your dice! :)

I have never seen anyone roll that badly, while at the same time I was rolling so well. I don't think I rolled under a four in combat more than twice and I don't think Tom rolled over a four more than a couple of times.

My second match was against Derek Wegener. He lined up his 12-ish bow against my 12 LCh with predictable results, given my die rolling.

My third match was against Rich Kurman who should receive some recognition for his sportsmanship. At a critical moment in the game he had my blade general double overlapped against his double rank of Pike and he rolled a 5 to my 1. Before I could even do the math to determine that he had killed my general, he picked up the die and re-rolled a 3, because it's his policy to re-roll any die that ends up on a unit. I'd have been fine (particularly after seeing the pictures of me with the "regalia") for him to have used the original roll.

[Pthomas]

Congratulations to Dave, Queen of the Universe! Thanks to all the players and especially to the strange two-headed TD John and Zeke who were apparently caught in the transporter beam when they were beaming over from Alpha Centauri.

Good food, good fun, and Universal Queen for a year. What more could anyone ask?

Those not from the Midwest that want to be Queen of the Universe are welcome to come next year! We treat regional Princesses with great honor and respect!

[Zekestrom]

John was coming from Alpha, I was en route from Proxima. The merger was clearly destined. I expect the extraction process to be just as painful. :)

Very glad so many of you were able to make it. Always glad to help out, as I know John loves to play BBDBA. Besides, it's never a stretch to call me the "odd man" (at least not for anyone who knows me.)

Hoping to see the remainder of the "slacker princesses" at ATC (you know who you are!)

[Mike Demana]

Hoping to see the remainder of the "slacker princesses" at ATC (you know who you are!)

A surprisingly high proportion of which have the last name "Cole"...

[John Loy]

A surprisingly high proportion of which have the last name "Cole"...


And a couple named Stelzer:eek


John

[Mike_Cole]

there is shame in the cole family....

[Frizzenspark]

there is shame in the cole family....

Well, two Coles DID showup, but DID not play :silly

[Mike Demana]

Which, to me, is like showing up at the reception but skipping the wedding. Oh? Cake? Sure, cut me a slice...

Though, to be fair, he did re-up for Great Lakes for the two of them while there. Which gives up hope that he or Mike will attend an event in the future...perhaps even Advance the Colors...!

[Steve Cole]

Fashionably late. Didn't have cake, but the sloppy joes were good (and my 5yr old knows good sloppy joes!) -Thanks John.

ATC looks like a green light for me. Possibly with a new army too. I'm actually venturing out of Book 1 & 2 for a change.

Congrats Dave!

[Mike_Cole]

mrs cole gave me the "you're making a lot of assumptions" speech about going to ATC... so looks like the only thing I'm going to be painting before ATC is walls, keeping my mouth shut (always a tough one), and lots of happy smiles. :D

[Mike Demana]

I always knew you wore the pants in your family, Mike. Throw the Tuskegee Airmen line at her: These veterans are dying off at a rate of thousands per day. This may be the last chance to see these WW II heroes.

Flexibility, Engineer Cole, flexibility...adapt to your enemy, play to their weaknesses! Just like you do in DBA...hmm. Maybe not like *you* do in DBA!

[Frizzenspark]

Gosh Yes.....I was glad to know a local Tuskegee Airmen that unfortunately passed this year, they are a tight-knit group and I'm sure that we could share stories about our fallen friend.

Ah, the coveted "Kitchen-Pass" I haven't brought up the subject of ATC in my house yet.....