Two questions on fron crossing

[Andrechin]

Yesterday a friend and I come up on some anomalous situations I would like to clarify.

The first one I realized in the bus coming back home:

http://www.mi.infn.it/~andreazz/DBA/tilted1.gif

Here, if I moves straight toward A, it crosses the BWD region of B before meeting A's one.
Does it mean "I" must align/contact B and cannot align/contact A in the current bound?

In the second position, the following group move by I and H to contact A, :

http://www.mi.infn.it/~andreazz/DBA/groupmove.gif

is it legal or does it violate the restrictions imposed by B?

[xeswop]

If I moves exactly forward then it will enter the Base Width Distance of B before A and thus must then react to B. There are maximum and minimum limits to situations that make the situtions seem strange. If B were 100 paces ahead or at right angles to A and ahead would we have any trouble with I being restricted by B before A. There is some point at the extreme where the situation seems an anomoly.

BTW, cannot I easily shift sideways a bit to enter first the BWD of A and then line up with which ever it prefers as it is in the BWD of both?

In the second case, this is clearly a group move covered under the rule:
"If there is a gap between enemy elements less than an element base width wide, some may be in edge but not corner-to-corner contact, so will not take part in combat this bound. "

The group move into contact takes precedence over the restriction as an explicit exception. This rule is explicitly included to stop such separations from breaking up attacking groups.

[Andrechin]

Originally posted by Bob.:

BTW, cannot I easily shift sideways a bit to enter first the BWD of A and then line up with which ever it prefers as it is in the BWD of both?
Yes, if it is a single element, it may be not possible if "I" is part of a group.


In the second case, this is clearly a group move covered under the rule:
"If there is a gap between enemy elements less than an element base width wide, some may be in edge but not corner-to-corner contact, so will not take part in combat this bound. "

The group move into contact takes precedence over the restriction as an explicit exception. This rule is explicitly included to stop such separations from breaking up attacking groups. How far do you think this exception can hold?

Would you allow the move if B is slightly back, so that the H does not end in contact with B?

Would you allow the move if B is slightly tilted?

Thanks,

[xeswop]

I would almost always allow a group to move into contact with an single element and ignore other single elements around. This I think becomes a "judgement call" in some cases. In a tournament, the umpire would have to rule on the acceptability of the single element placement.

Players should be told that it is very difficult for single elements to prevent group moves. Zone of Control/Base Width Area in the way or not.

Nevertheless, this is a good issue to bring up for DBA 3, in two years.