Historicon - Tony Bath Memorial BBDBA Championship

[David Schlanger]

Hey all,

Thought I would enourage a little banter regarding BBDBA Doubles at Historicon, since it is only a couple of months away. It is scheduled for Friday July 21, 9AM-6PM.

Last year at Historicon, we had a fantastic turnout of 20 Teams for the Tony Bath event. I'm hoping for the same kind of turnout this year!

Please post here if you are planning to participate, if you are looking for another player to team up with, or if you just have something to comment...

Tentative participation list as of 5/20/06:

1) Chris Brantley and Jeff Caruso
2) David Kuijt and David Schlanger
3) Joe Collins and Ed Dillon
4) Roland Fricke and Jon Baldwin
5) Hank 'the Dread' Drapalski and Richard Wright


Just some of the many questions to ponder...

- What IS Chris Brantley and Jeff Caruso's "mystery" army?

- Can Larry and Rich make it two wins in a row, after storming to the doubles crown at Cold Wars?

- Will anybody take a wheelbarrow army?

[ June 04, 2006, 13:23: Message edited by: David Schlanger ]

[Ed Dillon]

Joe Collins and I plan to show up with another "lead with your chin" C-in-C. Who will be the first to trash our commanding general? We he be able to stand up to the Dreaded Drapalskis for more than 3 rounds? Stay tuned!

Ed "A wheelbarrow is my war wargon" Dillon

[CT Yankee]

Roland Fricke and Jon Baldwin will be back to defend our....selves.

[Jeff Caruso]

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originally posted by David Schlanger:
Tentative participation list as of 5/19/06:

1) Chris Brantley and Jeff Caruso
2) David Kuijt and David Schlanger


Just some of the many questions to ponder...

- What IS Chris Brantley and Jeff Caruso's "mystery" army?
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I am working on the army now and will post a picture of the General's figure :eek: as soon as Chris has made the change over on Fanaticus.

Why would I give the secret army over to prying eyes?Because it is unstoppable.It suits our combined playing styles to a tee and automatically corrects for any generalship boo-boos. :D

Got stampeding cattle,flaming pigs, armored efellants with Howdy Doody in the howdah?Bring 'em on.Its just fresh meat for our army baby. tongue.gif

Heavy foot armies will not fare any better against us.We'll just be picking the armored bits out of our teeth. :D

Humbly yours,

Jeff (Jurassic Zoo Keeper) graemlins/king.gif

[Jeff Caruso]

Well, the army, which shall not be named :D ,is coming together and all that remains is to get the necessary customs paper work to get it into El Paso,Tx., from Chihuahau,Mx.Then of course, up to me in Denver, and off to the mold maker in Ohio, then back to me to paint it up.So,nothing to do now but kick back,chill out,open a brewski,and enjoy the thought of the Davids shopping for adult size Depends as the fear builds in them. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

Jeff

[Rock]

I assure you, I do not intend to strike fear in the hearts of those already committed to the BBDBA tournament, however, I do hereby announce that Richard B Wright and I will bring our armies to compete! (My son, who usually carries me in this event, will be in China this summer, so Rich has agreed to be the brains of the duo.) :D

[David Schlanger]

Glad to hear you will be there, Hank! It wouldn't be the same without you.

Let's just hope we have tables and space to play!!

DS

[Rock]

Thank you, David. BBDBA is a highpoint of my year!

By the way, does Jeff Caruso know this isn't a HOTT tournament?

[Rob Torres]

Hi David. Team Torres is planning on being there!

[David Schlanger]

Tentative participation list as of 6/7/06:

1) Chris Brantley and Jeff Caruso
2) David Kuijt and David Schlanger
3) Joe Collins and Ed Dillon
4) Roland Fricke and Jon Baldwin
5) Hank 'the Dread' Drapalski and Richard Wright
6) Rob and Matt Torres
7) Jack 'the Butcher' and Peter 'the Cleaver' Sheriff
8) Rich Baier and Tim Hladon

[ June 11, 2006, 13:22: Message edited by: David Schlanger ]

[El' Jocko]

Dave, please add me and Peter to the list.

- Jack

[dicemanrick]

David, Larry Chaban will NOT be at Historicon. This is a definate instead of the last convention! He will be with the Boy Scouts climbing the Rockies (insert joke here about young Boy Scouts and climbing peaks....)

I'm shopping for a partner now, but my nephew still hasn't committed...he's first on my list.

[dicemanrick]

New team member found....Tim Hladon!

And we won't repeat with the cheater Anglo-Normans.

[David Schlanger]

So both of you dumped your Larrys? smile.gif

[ June 11, 2006, 13:23: Message edited by: David Schlanger ]

[Jonathan T Miller]

David,
Shervin Boloorian and I will be a team. Is there going to be a team cheer event too? If so, please anticipate us singing "we-will, we-will, ZOC-you!"

Looking forward to it!
Jonathan.

[Jeff Caruso]

Just so I know, what are the rules for fielding armies? Must they be completely painted, by hand or some is creative spray painting or "o" size barn brush allowed? :D Don't want a lot of whining :( when I show up with an army in "Understated Black", maybe with some red highlights. :eek:

Jeff

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by Jeff Caruso:
Just so I know, what are the rules for fielding armies? Must they be completely painted, by hand or some is creative spray painting or "o" size barn brush allowed? :D Don't want a lot of whining :( when I show up with an army in "Understated Black", maybe with some red highlights. :eek:

Jeff The problem with being a practical joker, Jeff, is that nobody will ever be able to tell if you are asking a serious question. :confused:

Assuming you are being serious, there are no rules giving a minimum painting standard because nobody has ever shown up with an unpainted or primed army. And if you show up with one, don't be surprised if you are mocked to within an inch of your life by everyone who knows you (strangers are more polite than friends).

[Jeff Caruso]

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originally posted by DK:
And if you show up with one, don't be surprised if you are mocked to within an inch of your life by everyone who knows you (strangers are more polite than friends).
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So,was it the red highlights that were unacceptable? I can leave them off if it matters.Note to Chris: This should save some preperation time. :D

Jeff

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by Jeff Caruso:

So,was it the red highlights that were unacceptable? I can leave them off if it matters.Note to Chris: This should save some preperation time. :D
I appreciate the red highlights -- it shows that you have learned and developed, and have found a way to improve your normal paintjob. Good for you!

[David Schlanger]

Tentative participation list as of 6/12/06:

1) Chris Brantley and Jeff Caruso
2) David Kuijt and David Schlanger
3) Joe Collins and Ed Dillon
4) Roland Fricke and Jon Baldwin
5) Hank 'the Dread' Drapalski and Richard Wright
6) Rob and Matt Torres
7) Jack 'the Butcher' and Peter 'the Cleaver' Sheriff
8) Rich Baier and Tim Hladon
9) Jonathan Miller and Shervin Boloorian

[dicemanrick]

David S...yes, the two Larry's are in foreign countries...one in Mexico, the other in some Western state that has real mountains..I forget which one, but it's real far away (snif, sniffle...)

[Martian]

Schedule this one for the first round!

Chris Brantley and Jeff Caruso
Facing
Joe Collins and Ed Dillon

A +1 on any die roll made after any pun.

+2 if DK hears it and groans! tongue.gif

[ June 16, 2006, 16:08: Message edited by: Martian ]

[Jeff Caruso]

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originally posted by Marty:
Schedule this one for the first round!

Chris Brantley and Jeff Caruso
Facing
Joe Collins and Ed Dillon

A +1 on any die roll made after any pun.

+2 is DK hears it and groans!

[ June 16, 2006, 12:08: Message edited by: Martian ]

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Marty
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I accept the challenge.In fact,I'd die for the +1. :D

Can we build up the +1's in advance?

Too bad Ed won't see this till he comes down from his roost tonight. :(

Jeff

[Ed Dillon]

Most of the times that I've seen you die, it's been a one...

And I don't "come down from my roost". As the local gamers can tell you, I have blackout curtains so that I can hang from my toes in the closet... It ain't easy being a vampire these days.

You know how bad this could get for Dr. Kuijt. We start him groaning and then it's "2" "2" time. And the sight of us with tutus would not pretty, no sir, not pretty at all.

Perhaps a better plan would be to put the "Brothers David" play on the board between the board that Chris (Hail, Imperator!) and Jeff are playing on and the one that Joe and I are on. Cross-fire can be brutal. We should try to get Marty behind him to make sure that we have enfilade fire regardless of how he tries to dodge. He can't recoil, that way. He'll be done in by the "Buttocks of Death". He might bring a bow army or light horse army, but he'll get trampled by the asses... tongue.gif

(Chris, feel free to delete or modify this as you see fit.) graemlins/thumbup.gif

[ June 16, 2006, 23:52: Message edited by: Ed Dillon ]

[Jeff Caruso]

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originally posted by Ed Dillon:
Perhaps a better plan would be to put the "Brothers David" play on the board between the board that Chris (Hail, Imperator!) and Jeff are playing on and the one that Joe and I are on. Cross-fire can be brutal. We should try to get Marty behind him to make sure that we have enfilade fire regardless of how he tries to dodge. He can't recoil, that way. He'll be done in by the "Buttocks of Death". He might bring a bow army or light horse army, but he'll get trampled by the asses...
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Ed, this has got to be your finest hour.Well said and truly spoke. smile.gif graemlins/king.gif

Jeff

[Jeff Caruso]

The good news for Team Imperator is the Sacred Banner smile.gif has arrived.Actually,Chris is the CinC so its the Lackey's Standard Only but why quibble.A tremendous boost in morale for an army whose troops are yet only a gleam in the sculptor's eye.

Painstakingly, hand-stiched in 15mm scale by the women of CCDOC (Canyon City Department of Corrections.See Sis, those Home Ec classes paid off afterall. :D )It is based in part on Lunar Worship, Chucky Cheese and Alfred E. Newman.Picture to follow of course.
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And now for something completely different,almost.
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This is completely without having confered with Chris, but does anyone have a GOOD NAME for our team?Realizing what this is going to unleash, I am, nevertheless, willing to give a one off 15mm conversion of a Goth or LIR, etc to the person who suggests a name that Chris and I agree on(to be presented at Historicon '06).If we come up with a name in the meantime you can still revel in having taken your best shot at us.

Anyone submitting a name for the contest should by way of identification purposes provide make, model, year and VIN number of vehicle you will be attending Historicon in.Do not read the threat of retaliation into this request, it is purely for insuring that the winner and other entrants get theirs, recognition that is.So don't be shy, what do you suggest???
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For a limited, Chris and I have agreed to accept unconditional surrender(ie a bye) from the Davids so that they do not have to undergo the pubic humiliation of being skunked by The Imperator and moi. tongue.gif

And yes,I know you think I make a spelling mistake in the last sentence.Naw.

[ June 17, 2006, 12:07: Message edited by: Jeff Caruso ]

[Bill Sumruld]

I won't be there to collect or to suffer retribution, living out west in one of those states with real mountains and up to my eyeballs in work as usual :( but my suggestion for your team Jeff is "The Two Tenors" just not quite as good as the "The Three Tenors." I think you and Chris will know why I picked that name.

[Jeff Caruso]

Bill,you said,

"...but my suggestion for your team Jeff is "...The Two Tenors" ... I think you and Chris will know why I picked that name.

I'm sorry brain is off duty. graemlins/huh.gif :confused:

Don't get it.Email direct to: thepass@flash.net


Jeff

[Ed Dillon]

Originally posted by Jeff Caruso:
Bill,you said,

"...but my suggestion for your team Jeff is "...The Two Tenors" ... I think you and Chris will know why I picked that name.

I'm sorry brain is off duty. graemlins/huh.gif :confused:

Don't get it.Email direct to: thepass@flash.net


Jeff http://www.britannica.com/ebi/article-9273542

[Jeff Caruso]

Thanks Ed.I know who Great,Great Uncle Enrico is.I still don't get the two tenors bit.Nor do I understand the tenor of this thread. :rolleyes:

Jeff

[Ed Dillon]

The Two Tenors would be a take-off on the Three Tenors. You need to watch a bit more of the artsy side of public TV.... ;)

Ed

[Jeff Caruso]

Enrico Caruso, Benjamino Gigli, and Jussi Bjöerling.

Without the benefit of PBS. smile.gif

Jeff

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by Jeff Caruso:
Enrico Caruso, Benjamino Gigli, and Jussi Bjöerling.

Jussi Bjöerling? That's the whole bunch of you.

[Bill Sumruld]

Like Ed said. AS the Two Tenors you will have to work in perfect harmony. :D And DK tongue.gif :D

[Jeff Caruso]

quote:
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originally posted by Ed Dillon:
Perhaps a better plan would be to put the "Brothers David" play on the board between the board that Chris (Hail, Imperator!) and Jeff are playing on and the one that Joe and I are on. Cross-fire can be brutal. We should try to get Marty behind him to make sure that we have enfilade fire regardless of how he tries to dodge. He can't recoil, that way. He'll be done in by the "Buttocks of Death". He might bring a bow army or light horse army, but he'll get trampled by the asses...
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This just in:

Weapons of A** Destruction: "Afghan Donkey Attack Thwarted" —Globe and Mail (Toronto) :eek:

Jeff

[ June 18, 2006, 20:47: Message edited by: Jeff Caruso ]

[imported_J Bostwick]

hello all ...

As things stand right now ... Alex and I will be there so you can put us down... I hope to finish painting our new bbdba army by then and no I will not be spray painting them and adding red highlights ...


I find green and blue highlights over white spraypaint better :)

[David Schlanger]

Tentative participation list as of 6/21/06:

1) Chris Brantley and Jeff Caruso
2) David Kuijt and David Schlanger
3) Joe Collins and Ed Dillon
4) Roland Fricke and Jon Baldwin
5) Hank 'the Dread' Drapalski and Richard Wright
6) Rob and Matt Torres
7) Jack 'the Butcher' and Peter 'the Cleaver' Sheriff
8) Rich Baier and Tim Hladon
9) Jonathan Miller and Shervin Boloorian
10) Alex and Jonathan Bostwick
11) Jim Dundorf and Mark Stricker

[Ed Dillon]

Originally posted by J Bostwick:
hello all ...

As things stand right now ... Alex and I will be there so you can put us down... I hope to finish painting our new bbdba army by then and no I will not be spray painting them and adding red highlights ...


I find green and blue highlights over white spraypaint better :) You're actually giving us permission to put you down? Not that we need it... ;)

Ed

[Jeff Caruso]

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Originally posted by Ed Dillon:
quote:
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Originally posted by J Bostwick:
hello all ...

As things stand right now ... Alex and I will be there so you can put us down... I hope to finish painting our new bbdba army by then and no I will not be spray painting them and adding red highlights ...


I find green and blue highlights over white spraypaint better :)
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You're actually giving us permission to put you down? Not that we need it...

Ed
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Second that Ed.Nor need we wait for Historicon.

What concerns me is the lack of spirited trash talking going on here.Is everybody brain dead?Not talking about the Davids of course, who are lifetime members of that society :D , but apart from the Honorable Mr Ed, the input here has been pathetic. :(

Chris, what are we going to call our team? :confused: Not even opening that question to discussion has gotten much response, apart from the too gentlemanly suggestion from The Professor.


Jeff

[Ed Dillon]

Originally posted by Jeff Caruso:
quote:

What concerns me is the lack of spirited trash talking going on here.Is everybody brain dead?Not talking about the Davids of course, who are lifetime members of that society :D , but apart from the Honorable Mr Ed, the input here has been pathetic. :(
<snip>
Jeff Mr. Ed, is it? Humph! I'll give you a swift kick that will change you from a tenor to a soprano. Lucky horseshoe indeed...
;)

[Jeff Caruso]

quote:
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originally posted by Ed Dillon:
Perhaps a better plan would be to put the "Brothers David" play on the board between the board that Chris (Hail, Imperator!) and Jeff are playing on and the one that Joe and I are on. Cross-fire can be brutal. We should try to get Marty behind him to make sure that we have enfilade fire regardless of how he tries to dodge. He can't recoil, that way. He'll be done in by the "Buttocks of Death". He might bring a bow army or light horse army, but he'll get trampled by the asses...
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quote:
Originally posted by MR ED:
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Mr. Ed, is it? Humph! I'll give you a swift kick that will change you from a tenor to a soprano. Lucky horseshoe indeed... ;)
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Hey Ed, You said it first. tongue.gif

Jeff

[Ed Dillon]

Hey Jeff, what army do you think that al Kuijt-a is going to bring?

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by Ed Dillon:
Hey Jeff, what army do you think that al Kuijt-a is going to bring? Arab Conquest?

[Chris Brantley]

Chris, what are we going to call our team? :confused: Not even opening that question to discussion has gotten much response, apart from the too gentlemanly suggestion from The Professor.My silence reflects a lack of good ideas. Also didn't want to tip our supersecret killer army. But how about Mutt and Jeff or the Two Jackals? Or perhaps, "Conquerers of Arabs." ;)

[ June 30, 2006, 13:34: Message edited by: Chris Brantley ]

[Jeff Caruso]

quote:
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Originally posted by Ed Dillon:
Hey Jeff, what army do you think that al Kuijt-a is going to bring?
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Based on Concord Publications' Ancient Armies by Tim Newark and Angus McBride, Plate 1, I'd say they are going to do Sumerians circa 2500 BC.You can see the Davids on the left side of the illustration, yoked up :D , ready to lead the charge on unspecified enemies.

Jeff

[Jeff Caruso]

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originally posted by Chris:
... or the Two Jackals?...
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Jackal II Pack?

Mutt and Jeff is too predictible plus we don't want to confuse people into thinking the Davids are part of the team.

[Chris Brantley]

As for the Davids cone of silence, non-wheelbarrow army choice, my money is on either Warring States (Chao) with ally or some flavor of Byzantine. If I had to pin it down further, I'd say Maurikian Byzantine with Khazar ally, which they rate as an A3/A4. That is pure guesswork and speculation on my part, so the amount of the wager would be low.

[Jonathan T Miller]

Originally posted by Chris Brantley:
As for the Davids cone of silence, non-wheelbarrow army choice, my money is on either Warring States (Chao) with ally or some flavor of Byzantine. If I had to pin it down further, I'd say Maurikian Byzantine with Khazar ally, which they rate as an A3/A4. That is pure guesswork and speculation on my part, so the amount of the wager would be low. Then again they might go for a surprise move and field Inca, figuring the psychological shock value would make up for the wanker army. I'm going to include a conquistador-looking element just in case.

Jonathan.

[Jonathan T Miller]

DS, What are the rules about army choices this time? Are we limited to any particular book?

(pre-emptive apology here in case this was already discussed)

Jonathan.

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by Jonathan T Miller:
DS, What are the rules about army choices this time? Are we limited to any particular book?

(pre-emptive apology here in case this was already discussed)

Jonathan. DS is off in California, with no internet access, until the 5th.

You may take any legal army/ally choice out of the book. Armies are usually grouped historically, such as is possible, in the inital pools.

[Jeff Caruso]

Used the Super Secret Force to be Reckoned With(SSFRW) BBDBA army in a narrow victory over some later Byzantine fellows who invaded the sacred homeland.Sacked their camp and defeated them in the field as well.

Never the less,I have a feeling that Chris and I will have an abudance of time to visit the dealer's area during the tournament as each round wraps up early. :rolleyes:

Jeff

[Chris Brantley]

Originally posted by Jeff Caruso:
Used the Super Secret Force to be Reckoned With(SSFRW) BBDBA army I thought we were TATMNBN - "The Army That Must Not Be Named"......I was looking forward to wearing my Team Voldemort tee-shirt. ;)

[Ed Dillon]

Originally posted by Chris Brantley:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jeff Caruso:
Used the Super Secret Force to be Reckoned With(SSFRW) BBDBA army I thought we were TATMNBN - "The Army That Must Not Be Named"......I was looking forward to wearing my Team Voldemort tee-shirt. ;) </font>[/QUOTE]So you plan to lose it all to the first little kid that you come across? Oh well, I hear that Albania is lovely this time of year...

[Jeff Caruso]

per Chris:
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I thought we were TATMNBN - "The Army That Must Not Be Named"......I was looking forward to wearing my Team Voldemort tee-shirt.
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Okay, Chris so you gave up the big clue that we have an allied command.Even the Davids can figure that out. :rolleyes:

Now, I'll have to paint up Plan 9 from Outerspace.All that time with those red highlights for naught. ;)

Jeff

[Ed Dillon]

Hey Jeff, what happened to the trash talk? H'con is right around the corner and eveybody has suddenly gotten polite. We're even leaving al Kuijt-a alone...

I wonder if WADBAG is going to give out the "Jack Sherriff Honorary Butcher of Historicon BBDBA" prize this year. Who is the most bloodthirsty? Heck, if they do the paper work for the tourney, _I'll" spring for a couple of medals to hand out! How about it, guys?

Meanwhile Joe Collins and I are working on our secret plan to avenge ourselves on as much of Team Drapalski as we can get at for last year's drubbing. When we get thru wif da Rock, dere gonna call 'im Pebbles...
;)

(Gee whiz, if this doesn't jumpstart something, I'm going back to reading Emily Vanderbilt...)

[David Schlanger]

Originally posted by Jonathan T Miller:
DS, What are the rules about army choices this time? Are we limited to any particular book?

(pre-emptive apology here in case this was already discussed)

Jonathan. Jonathan,

For most people, any legal army list and ally or allies from the book. No restriction on Book or theme, etc.

However, I've placed a special restriction on you - only Class D & E effectiveness armies from the BBDBA army assessment (http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~kuijt/BBDBA/ArmyAssessment.html) are legal choices! ;)

Hope that helps,
DS

PS - I've also decided to shorten the length of all of TATMNBN official games to 1.5 hours in an effort to shorten the periods of suffering they will have to endure. And give them more time to shop.

[ July 06, 2006, 09:21: Message edited by: David Schlanger ]

[El' Jocko]

Originally posted by Ed Dillon:
I wonder if WADBAG is going to give out the "Jack Sherriff Honorary Butcher of Historicon BBDBA" prize this year. Who is the most bloodthirsty? Heck, if they do the paper work for the tourney, _I'll" spring for a couple of medals to hand out! How about it, guys?
No point. I'd just be walking away with my own medal. I really hadn't been living up to my moniker lately, but last night I had a good 6-2 game with Dave S., and a couple of weeks ago my son (Peter "The Cleaver") beat me 7-4. You gotta like a game with 11 dead elements.

- Jack

[Jonathan T Miller]

Originally posted by David Schlanger:
Jonathan,

For most people, any legal army list and ally or allies from the book. No restriction on Book or theme, etc.

However, I've placed a special restriction on you - only Class D & E effectiveness armies from the BBDBA army assessment (http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~kuijt/BBDBA/ArmyAssessment.html) are legal choices! ;)

Hope that helps,
DS
A perfectly natural choice David, clearly superior talent should be handicapped to give others a fighting chance... well, the illusion of a chance.

Jonathan.

[Rock]

Pebbles? Is this a manifestation of some sick fantasy, wherein I appear as the daughter of Fred and Wilma Flintstone?

Already, my wily partner and I have begun our plan to field a juggernaut which will crush our opposition, without the compassion typically shown by "Dread and Son" .

Best wishes, "Rock"

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by Rock:

Already, my wily partner and I have begun our plan to field a juggernaut which will crush our opposition, without the compassion typically shown by "Dread and Son" .
Good, good. Your compassion overflowed last year. Too much pity, that was your problem. You were pitiful.

[Rock]

I can't tell you how often I've been faulted for being too nice....'tis a pity, being this full of pity, in short, pitiful.

[Ed Dillon]

Originally posted by Rock:
I can't tell you how often I've been faulted for being too nice....'tis a pity, being this full of pity, in short, pitiful. Oh, my mistake then. I thought it was more along the lines of, "It was pity that stayed his hand. "Pity I've run out of bullets.""
:D

[Jeff Caruso]

So, Hank are you going to bring the painted Goth Army for me to see?

Jeff

[Ed Dillon]

Originally posted by Rock:
Pebbles? Is this a manifestation of some sick fantasy, wherein I appear as the daughter of Fred and Wilma Flintstone?

Best wishes, "Rock" This from a man who wear tights to work?

Ed

[David Schlanger]

Here's where we stand, no new teams of late but hopefully we will have some walkup. 16 teams would be perfect.

DS

Tentative participation list as of 7/10/06:

1) Chris Brantley and Jeff Caruso
2) David Kuijt and David Schlanger
3) Joe Collins and Ed Dillon
4) Roland Fricke and Jon Baldwin
5) Hank 'the Dread' Drapalski and Richard Wright
6) Rob and Matt Torres
7) Jack 'the Butcher' and Peter 'the Cleaver' Sheriff
8) Rich Baier and Tim Hladon
9) Jonathan Miller and Shervin Boloorian
10) Alex and Jonathan Bostwick
11) Jim Dundorf and Mark Stricker

[Jeff Caruso]

Running out of time to get ready for the tournament. Who knew that braiding two leather lariats to tow the deafeated Davids behind your chariot would take so long? :D

Jeff

[Jonathan T Miller]

After the Davids are crushed and driven before us, I painted up some depressed-looking female figures to represent the Lamentation of the Women.

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by Jonathan T Miller:
After the Davids are crushed and driven before us, I painted up some depressed-looking female figures to represent the Lamentation of the Women. If you crush and drive us before you, you will be forced to listen to the Lamentation of the Davids. It's happened before -- ask Mark & Mike, who defeated us with Huns (we were Dacians), or Marty and Bob McD, who defeated us with Carthage (we were Aztecs), or Larry and Diceman Rick, who defeated us with AngloNermels (we were Ch'u Chinese). Even now, months or years later, they are all still in therapy. Mark, in particular, has a twitch in his left cheek which starts up whenever he meets someone named David, and Marty still wakes up screaming in the middle of the night.

It is only as a kindness to our opponents that we attempt to ensure they don't have to suffer years of psychic damage; the Gloating of the Davids causes no such permanent injury to the psyche, and so is far easier to recover from.

[Jonathan T Miller]

Originally posted by David Kuijt:
If you crush and drive us before you, you will be forced to listen to the Lamentation of the Davids. I know we're not supposed to advertise products here on Fanaticus, but Shervin and I will be selling special "Anti-Lamentation Earplugs" at the flea market. Much cheaper than therapy... I just wish we'd have reason to use them ourselves.

[Rock]

Delayed reply to Jeff Caruso: They're Gepids, not Goths! I regret to inform that they are not done, having been bumped by Poles, Italians, French, Swiss and Mongols in the painting queue (sp?). Having said this, they are next, ahead of renaissance Poles and Ottomans. As soon as they're done, I can send digital pix.

[Rock]

"Pity I've run out of bullets.""
We can use bullets? I thought arrows were high tech!

This from a man who wear tights to work?
And i thought you didn't notice!

[Ralph (4)]

Hi Dave/All

I just sent you an email using the email address identified on the fanaticus profile. Bottomline is I am from CA but have found myself in NVA next weekend and suddenly I have the means to go to Historicon. I am big fan of DBA and if it is possible I would like to sign up for a DBA tournament at Historicon. I plan to go to Historicon Fri-Sat-Sun anyway, but I would like to get a spot on the tournament roster if possible.

Not sure if I got the right POC so if I don't can anyone point me in the right direction.

[Bob. (and his dog)]

Hi Ralph,
Glad you can come to the Convention. Will you be able to bring figues for games or can we bring something for you.

There are lots of events. All signup is on site, Most events have no limits so you can get into the events you want.

THere are both standard tournaments and some special campaign special events. See everything here

http://www.nasamw.org/tournaments02.htm#DBA_at_Historicon

[Ralph (4)]

Bob

Thanks for the quick reply. First, no I do not have any DBA armies with me. I was hoping to pick up some at the Convention. I have played (and like to play) Khmer, Norman, Later Sarmatian, Skythian, or Norman but beggars can't be chosy bottomline is I want to play.

I will probably arrive Saturday morning, hopefully I will have time to hit the vendors? before the NICT.

Looking at the events calendar on the webpage you provided the events I would like to shoot for are

Saturday

2Pm - 5pm
The NICT - "Phil and Sue DBA Masters

8pm - 11pm
Britannia AD 43 Mini Campaign


Sunday

9am - Noon
DBA Themes

I will sign-up for these events as soon as I get on site. Thanks again for the quick response you made my day. See you at Historicon.

[ July 15, 2006, 21:10: Message edited by: Ralph (4) ]

[Ed Dillon]

Ralph, the NICT is an invitational tourney. You have to have won a qualifying tournament to qualify to play. However and having said that, they will use some of us as "filler" to make the bracket numbers come out properly. So you if you haven't won a slot, you still have a chance. Good luck at H'con and I look forward to seeing you.

Don't worry too much about the trash talk that has blown around on the forum as we know each other and enjoy this aspect of the game as well. Heck, I might as well talk big before the games start, 'cause I darned sure won't be able to afterwards... ;)

[Bob. (and his dog)]

Ralph, good to know your plans. Let me round out Ed's good comments. As he says, the NICT is our only non-open tournament but the good news is at the same time we have the "not the NICT" tournament which is an open event. I will bring a Norman army that you can use. I am not staying over Sunday but there will be plenty of people at the Themes who will be able to loan you troops.

The DBA events are in the Lampeter Room, just at the front of the Hotel. Across from the registration area.

See you in a few days.

[Ed Dillon]

I'll be away from my computer until after Historicon. I look foreward to seeing everybody. Drive safe!

Meanwhile I'm trying to decide what kind of paper I'm gonna bring to cover (beat) the Rock with... tongue.gif

[Ralph (4)]

Bob & Ed

Thanks for the amplifying information (my convention newbie status probably shone through there). No worries, invitational or non-invitational, I just want to play. The non-invitational sounds great to me. Thanks, for bringing the Army. You guys have been great. See you at Historicon.

[Martian]

Originally posted by David Kuijt:
[QUOTE]or Marty and Bob McD, who defeated us with Carthage (we were Aztecs), -snip- and Marty still wakes up screaming in the middle of the night.
The primary reason I won't be there this year!

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[David Schlanger]

Thanks to everyone that participated in the Big Battle DBA at Historicon this year! It was a lot of fun. I will try to post some pictures when I get organized.

DS

[Jeff Caruso]

I'd like to report that the Team of " 2006 BC" (Brantley and Caruso) took first place by riding down all our opponents using an all mounted force with a 2 aggression. Unfortunately the results do not make that report possible as we lost narrowly (but consistently) in all bounds. We were even shoved out of last place by other more cunning players.

What did we learn? The scribes are compiling the events now for an indepth analysis so that Team 2006 BC can begin the finger pointing with a firm data base behind them.

First reports have shown that the BLACK DIE thrown by me averaged below all probability tables. This could be an attempt at a gracious coverup by the Imperator for my play. Film at 11:00.

Jeff

[Ed Dillon]

Jeff, just bring your special dice to fall-In. Remember, the Black Die's day will come...
Or... every die has its day...

[Jeff Caruso]

I'd like to report that the Team of " 2006 BC" (Brantley and Caruso) took first place by riding down all our opponents using an all mounted force with a 2 aggression. Unfortunately the results do not make that report possible as we lost narrowly (but consistently) in all bounds. We were even shoved out of last place by other more cunning players.

What did we learn? The scribes are compiling the events now for an indepth analysis so that Team 2006 BC can begin the finger pointing with a firm data base behind them.

First reports have shown that the BLACK DIE thrown by me averaged below all probability tables. This could be an attempt at a gracious coverup by the Imperator for my play. Film at 11:00.

Jeff

It can be stated now, with complete assurance of the facts, that Team 2006 BC lost BBDBA with their all mounted army due to the largest command carrying the wrong color standard into battle. While it was suspected that a problem might develop over morale and the general ability to prosecute a battle plan ( attack and roll 6's), the consequence of fighting under the wrong standard has been identified as the ONE TRUE EXCUSE for underperformance of Team 2006 BC at Historicon.

The acceptance of this truth takes nothing away from our opponent's lucky die rolling in setting terrain as defenders. They are free to continue under the false assumption that they were the better tacticians, whatever. Just wait till...

Jeff

[David Schlanger]

Teams were arranged into three groups of four teams based on chronology, except that Classical Indian and Characene were swapped in an effort to balance the groups more evenly and make better sense in general.

Following the initial round robin group stage, the three group winners and the best second place finisher were seeded based on points and moved to the semifinals for elimination play.

This event marked a couple of firsts for Big Battle DBA tournament play… this is the first time we had multiple armies with scythed chariots, and even a Seleucid civil war (if not the exact same list a vs. c). It was also the first time we had two teams play with an army that had two allies.

Thanks to everyone who participated, and sorry about the delay in posting the results.

DS


BBDBA Doubles at Historicon 2006 Participants and Groups:

* - group winner.
** - best second place across all groups.

Jumbo/Successors Group:
1) Jim Dundorf and Mark Stricker - 129 pts.
Army: II/15. Alexandrian Imperial with II/3. Classical Indian ally

2) Jonathan and Alex Bostwick - 66 pts.
Army: II/19a. Seleucid

3) Tim Hladon and Rich Baier - 172 pts.
Army: II/19c. Seleucid

*4) Hank Drapalski and Rich Wright - 181 pts.
Army: II/3. Classical Indian

Dark Ages Mixed Group:
*5) Jonathan Miller and Doug Austin - 250 pts.
Army: II/22d. Characene with II/37. Parthian and II/23a. Arab Nomad allies

6) Jon Baldwin and Roland Fricke - 66 pts.
Army: III/2. Early Lombard with III/5a. Middle Frankish and III/13b. Avar allies

7) Chris Brantley and Jeff Caruso - 43 pts.
Army: III/55. Khitan-Liao

8) Jack "the Butcher" and Peter "the Cleaver" Sheriff - 174 pts.
Army: III/75. Konstantinian Byzantine with III/70a Georgian ally

Medieval Knight Group:
9) Ed Dillon and Joe Collins - 104 pts.
Army: IV/3. Anglo-Norman

*10) David Schlanger and David Kuijt - 270 pts.
Army: IV/68b. Medieval Portuguese

**11) David and Jason Bostwick - 194 pts.
Army: IV/64c. Medieval French with IV/16. Scots Common ally

12) Rob and Ruth Torres - 32 pts.
Army: IV/61. Italian Condotta with IV/79. Later Swiss ally

Semifinals:
#1 seed David Schlanger and David Kuijt defeated #3 seed Hank Drapalski and Rich Wright.

#4 seed David and Jason Bostwick defeated #2 seed Jonathan Miller and Doug Austin

Finals:
#1 seed David Schlanger and David Kuijt defeated #4 seed David and Jason Bostwick

[Barron of Ideas]

Why didn't the number one seed play number four, and number two play number three? This gives the number one player a reward for a superior record, having an advantage of a battle against the "weaker" of the armies that made the finals. Look at how the NBA handles playoffs.

[Bob. (and his dog)]

From reading the the lists it is easy to see that Bostwicks #4 and Davids #1 played each other in the round robin. So the split did not have them again in the first round. How does the NBA handle this case? If only the DBA players got the same salaries for playing games :)

By the way, my fault for the delay in David getting back the scores.

[David Schlanger]

Why didn't the number one seed play number four, and number two play number three? This gives the number one player a reward for a superior record, having an advantage of a battle against the "weaker" of the armies that made the finals. Look at how the NBA handles playoffs.

As Bob pointed out, because the highest 2nd place finisher was in the same group as the #1 seed during round robin play, it seemed like the best choice would be to pair the semifinals so that they didn't play. There was no avoiding it for the finals of course.

If that was not an issue, it would have been #1 vs. #4 and #2 vs. #3 as you suggested.

DS