BBDBA at Historicon 2005

[David Schlanger]

Is it too early to start talking about BBDBA at Historicon 2005?

[ May 12, 2005, 14:43: Message edited by: David Schlanger ]

[El' Jocko]

Yes.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jsheriff/icon_sneer.gif

[ May 12, 2005, 15:22: Message edited by: El' Jocko ]

[David Schlanger]

I would really love to see that sneer.

Ah, now I can see it...and the url.

Ooooh, you did it!

http://www.frostjedi.com/phpbb/images/smiles/cheers.gif

[ May 12, 2005, 15:32: Message edited by: David Schlanger ]

[Martian]

Care to tell us what army the Davids will be playing? ;)

(DK recently confessed to me you haven't finished painting it yet!)

Bob McDonald and I will NOT be bringing Hannibal and the Jumbo Boys again.

We'll just do our usual...wait until the last minute...look at our collections and pick something.

Seemed to work well last year! :D


Marty

[David Schlanger]

Okay, perhaps it was too early to talk about it, but now there are only 56 days left...
Let the trash talking commence! http://www.frostjedi.com/phpbb/images/smiles/nuts.gif

Where's Team Chihuahua?

Historicon 2005
Friday July 22
9AM - 6PM
Big Battle Doubles - 15mm.
Players bring own armies and terrain. Two players with equivalent of three DBA armies, if allies, must be those stated in the lists for the main army. Use same options for all games but command structure can change from game to game. Standard rules but 60 inch wide battlefield and minor deployment and victory changes which are featured at... http//www.fanaticus.org/DBA/guides/NASAMWBigBattleDBA.html

Known Teams:
1) David Kuijt and David Schlanger
2) Martin Schmidt and Bob McDonald
3) Robert Runnels and Dan Henderson
4) Jack "the Butcher" and Tad "the Cleaver" Sheriff
5) Roland Fricke and Jon Baldwin
6) Jason and Mike Stelzer
7) Joe Collins and Ed Dillon
8) Rob Torres and Doug Mudd
9) Jonathan and Alex Bostwick
10) Mark Pozniak and Eric Freiwald
11) The "Mystery" Team

Please let me know if you plan to attend and participate. Also, please post if you would like to play, and need a partner or don't have enough figures to field a full Big Battle army, or if you just feel like commenting or whatever...

Looking for a Doubles partner:
John Loy

DS

[ June 16, 2005, 09:30: Message edited by: David Schlanger ]

[John Loy]

Me Again :D

1) I will be there!!

2) I need a partner!!!

3) I have armies to choose from !!!!


:cool:


John

[John Meunier]

Well, I'd love there to get my butt pasted by some of the best players in the Eastern reaches of the nation.

I'm still waiting for DK and DS to set a real challenge for themselves and take a wheel barrow army to the event. (That is a wheel barrow on the BBDBA page, ain't it? Damn modem connection.)

[Hannibal Ad Portas]

Robert Runnels and Dan Henderson will team up again!! Looking forward to a day of BBDBA!!!

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by John Meunier:
Well, I'd love there to get my butt pasted by some of the best players in the Eastern reaches of the nation.

I'm still waiting for DK and DS to set a real challenge for themselves and take a wheel barrow army to the event. (That is a wheel barrow on the BBDBA page, ain't it? Damn modem connection.) Aztecs and Tlaxies were a wheelbarrow army in some versions of the BBDBA Document (we started painting them long before 2.2 gave Wb a chance in BGo). The only problem was, when we played them, we LOST a game! :eek: Imagine the horror!

But it is very easy for us to take a wheelbarrow to the Doubles -- all we have to do is put a wheelbarrow marker on the army we're going to take, a few days before! We control the document, we have the power! :D

[CT Yankee]

Roland and I are teaming up again for another go at the Daves...

[El' Jocko]

I'll be teaming up with my son for BBDBA. And given Tad's aggresive playing style, we'll be looking forward to some real carnage. We may not win, but there will be destruction everywhere.

- Jack

[Pozanias]

Originally posted by El' Jocko:
I'll be teaming up with my son for BBDBA. And given Tad's aggresive playing style, we'll be looking forward to some real carnage. We may not win, but there will be destruction everywhere.
- Jack The Butcher and The Cleaver playing together? Has there ever been a BBDBA game where all 72 elelments were killed (the last two being some sort of mutual destruction)?

Oh the Humanity.

[Stelzone]

Jason and I will be there, he has started some plans. I just charge forward and pray for good dice. :D

Mike S.

[David Schlanger]

Do we have Larry and Rich on board??? They are due for some BIG dice this time around smile.gif

DS

[Martian]

Did you send last year's dice to the crusher Dave?

[Roland Fricke]

I think I used them last month at our club. Managed five or six ones (four of which were in a row) in a single bound in a total of about 10 combats that bound. I have witnesses.

[ June 01, 2005, 21:04: Message edited by: Roland Fricke ]

[Ed Dillon]

Joe Collins and Ed Dillon will be there with an even cheesier army than last time! :eek:

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by Ed Dillon:
Joe Collins and Ed Dillon will be there with an even cheesier army than last time! :eek: Swiss, then?

[Ed Dillon]

Originally posted by David Kuijt:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ed Dillon:
Joe Collins and Ed Dillon will be there with an even cheesier army than last time! :eek: Swiss, then? </font>[/QUOTE]Bravo. Wrong, but Bravo. &lt;polite, golf applause&gt;
Early Wisconsin...

[Rob Torres]

Doug Mudd will be coming back from Colorado for this con and, since my son is deserting me for this one, he and I will be teaming up for BBDBA.

[David Schlanger]

Rob - Glad to hear you and Doug will be in the event!

DS smile.gif

[imported_J Bostwick]

My son Alex and I are planning to be there. Our goal is to not lose all 4 games ...

[David Schlanger]

We also have a "Mystery" team that is planning to participate!

The prospective turnout is looking very good, just a few more teams and we could have 16 teams (32 participants). That would make for a fantastic event!

DS

[El' Jocko]

Originally posted by David Schlanger:
We also have a "Mystery" team that is planning to participate!A mystery team! Are they going to wear masks? If it's the chihuahuas, that would be a plus for everyone. smile.gif

- Jack

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by El' Jocko:
A mystery team! Are they going to wear masks? If it's the chihuahuas, that would be a plus for everyone. smile.gif

- Jack ZING! Man, that's gotta sting...

[Darren Buxbaum]

Here is a picture that might be appropriate:
http://archive.gamespy.com/comics/dorktower/images/comics/dorktower456.gif

Maybe after a few drinks, things will begin to make sense. Best of luck to all. I just wish I could get the time off to be there.

[ June 17, 2005, 16:07: Message edited by: Darren Buxbaum ]

[xeswop]

I hope all entrants will remember that there is a prize for best dressed team. Matching shirts, at least, a must. Hats a plus. Other items considered.

[John Loy]

Reminder............

I still need a partner for doubles :D

John Loy

[Jeff Caruso]

quote:
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Originally posted by DK:

quote:
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Originally posted by El' Jocko:
A mystery team! Are they going to wear masks? If it's the chihuahuas, that would be a plus for everyone.

- Jack
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ZING! Man, that's gotta sting...

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DK
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DK,

Sitting in the cardiologist's office recently I read a ski magazine out of boredom.

What did I see but an article about a Canadian Mountain Guide,eh?Fellow named Steve with your last name,eh?

Had twin brothers and a yougest brother with a Doctorate in computer science,eh?

Too much coincidence, eh?Thought it must be a relation,eh?

Jeff

[Ed Dillon]

Originally posted by Jeff Caruso:
quote:
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Originally posted by DK:

quote:
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Originally posted by El' Jocko:
A mystery team! Are they going to wear masks? If it's the chihuahuas, that would be a plus for everyone.

- Jack
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ZING! Man, that's gotta sting...

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DK
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DK,

Sitting in the cardiologist's office recently I read a ski magazine out of boredom.

What did I see but an article about a Canadian Mountain Guide,eh?Fellow named Steve with your last name,eh?

Had twin brothers and a yougest brother with a Doctorate in computer science,eh?

Too much coincidence, eh?Thought it must be a relation,eh?

Jeff You mean that Darth Kuijt is actually one of twins?!!! Egad! It's hideous! A plot twist that I just didn't expect...
eh?
(no, Ed)

[Ed Dillon]

Originally posted by Pozanias:
The Butcher and The Cleaver playing together? Has there ever been a BBDBA game where all 72 elelments were killed (the last two being some sort of mutual destruction)?

Oh the Humanity. Actually, if the last two were Expendables, say scythed chariots, and they got the same attack roll, then both of them would die. At least that's how I remember the rule.

I still remember how excited The Butcher got at Fall In when we turned in a result of 5:3G...
Ed

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by Jeff Caruso:

DK,

Sitting in the cardiologist's office recently I read a ski magazine out of boredom.

What did I see but an article about a Canadian Mountain Guide,eh?Fellow named Steve with your last name,eh?

Had twin brothers and a yougest brother with a Doctorate in computer science,eh?
It's a small world, after all..

Yep, that's one of my brothers. About a decade and a half ago, one of my friends phoned me up and asked if I had a brother named Steve, because he was on ESPN2 at that moment.

Do you remember the name of the magazine? I'd be interested in reading the article.

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by Ed Dillon:
You mean that Darth Kuijt is actually one of twins?!!! Egad! It's hideous! A plot twist that I just didn't expect...
eh?
(no, Ed) Actually, Steve is the twin. One of me is enough (some would say, too many!). Steve's twin brother teaches archaeology at Notre Dame.

[Pthomas]

A Ski guide and two professors, who's the black sheep of this family? Surely, not the good Canadian with the sense to stay where they play hockey? Just how interesting are the family gatherings? smile.gif

[Alex Bostwick]

My dad and I will be playing in the tournament, most definately. Looking forward to this one, in particular, especially if we come against Dice Man and Larry.
smile.gif

[Jeff Caruso]

DK,

The article was in the Dec 2004 issue of SKIING,WINTER ADVENTURE magazine, beginning page 144.

I'll bring it with me to Historicon.I asked the doc if I could take it.

Actually since you are not mentioned by name I wasn't sure if it was your brother,eh?

Especially as on page 148 it talks about Steve's personality and I quote "Steve was just a kid when he came here to drive, but he was charming, intelligent, and good with people-the Tom Cruise ofIsland Lake...".

So you can't be related,eh? :D tongue.gif :D

Jeff

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by Jeff Caruso:

I'll bring it with me to Historicon.I asked the doc if I could take it.
[....]
Especially as on page 148 it talks about Steve's personality and I quote "Steve was just a kid when he came here to drive, but he was charming, intelligent, and good with people-the Tom Cruise ofIsland Lake...".

So you can't be related,eh? Ouch!

The "Tom Cruise" of Island Lake? BWHAHAHahahahahahahaha!!! I'll have to give him grief about that one!

DK

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by Pthomas:
A Ski guide and two professors, who's the black sheep of this family?Actually, he owns a helicopter skiing excursion business, with rock-climbing and stuff excursions in the summer. And our father is still skiing at 75, as well as teaching (Botany, at UVic in Victoria, BC), so I think Steve just represents the other half.

[Jeff Caruso]

Ouch!

The "Tom Cruise" of Island Lake? BWHAHAHahahahahahahaha!!! I'll have to give him grief about that one!

DK
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Sorry DK couldn't resist setting you up for that.It was worth it though.See you at the Con.

Jeff

[David Schlanger]

Hey, does anyone know if Rich and Larry, or any other team from Pittsburgh, will be there? Tim Hladan and Larry Stone played at Cold Wars, and did very well. Just curious. I am going to be really excited if we make it up to 16 teams.

Also, as far as I know John Loy is still looking for a partner! John, maybe you should ask Bob Beattie smile.gif

DS

[Roland Fricke]

Dave,
you're probably already at 16 teams if there are any walk on teams. I'd plan on 16+ teams.

[xeswop]

not to play! I gave this event to you so I could shop all Friday morning.

Do send a message to Phil asking him if he plans to play.

Originally posted by David Schlanger:


Also, as far as I know John Loy is still looking for a partner! John, maybe you should ask Bob Beattie smile.gif

DS

[John Loy]

Actually I HAD thought of asking him but figured he had higher standards :rolleyes:


I do still need a partner. I have a new army I'd like to try out!!

John

[David Schlanger]

Originally posted by Roland Fricke:
Dave,
you're probably already at 16 teams if there are any walk on teams. I'd plan on 16+ teams. I hope you are right, Roland. 16 teams would be really nice.

Dave

[David Schlanger]

Historicon 2005
Friday July 22
9AM - 6PM
Big Battle Doubles - 15mm.
Players bring own armies and terrain. Two players with equivalent of three DBA armies, if allies, must be those stated in the lists for the main army. Use same options for all games but command structure can change from game to game. Standard rules but 60 inch wide battlefield and minor deployment and victory changes which are featured at... http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/guides/NASAMWBigBattleDBA.html

Known Teams:
1) David Kuijt and David Schlanger
2) Martin Schmidt and Bob McDonald
3) Robert Runnels and Dan Henderson
4) Jack "the Butcher" and Tad "the Cleaver" Sheriff
5) Roland Fricke and Jon Baldwin
6) Joe Collins and Ed Dillon
7) Rob Torres and Doug Mudd
8) Jonathan and Alex Bostwick
9) Mark Pozniak and Eric Freiwald
10) The "Mystery" Team
11) Larry Chaban and Rich Baier
12) John Manning and Andy Zartolas
13) Kim Young and John Loy
14) David and Jason Bostwick

Chickened Out:
1) Mike and Jason Stelzer

Please let me know if you plan to attend and participate. Also, please post if you would like to play, and need a partner or don't have enough figures to field a full Big Battle army, or if you just feel like commenting or whatever...

Looking for a Doubles partner:
Nobody???

DS

[ July 08, 2005, 09:16: Message edited by: David Schlanger ]

[John Loy]

Looking for a Doubles partner:
John Loy


Got One !!!!

Mystery Team :eek:

[David Schlanger]

John,

Do you have a partner now? If so, who - so I can add you to the list...

Thanks,
David

[Martian]

Originally posted by David Schlanger:
John,

Do you have a partner now? If so, who - so I can add you to the list...

Thanks,
David Yeah! So I can then provide comment on your team amd its chances like:

13) John Manning and Andy Zartolas
Andy keeps trying out new partners. His partner from Cold Wars and Historicon 2004 still occasionaly drools and winces at the sound of rolling dice. Good luck John! See Ed for a shot of 'courage' before the event. It will make the pain go away!
;)
Marty

[ July 05, 2005, 12:22: Message edited by: Martian ]

[John Loy]

John,

Do you have a partner now? If so, who - so I can add you to the list...


Kim Young. He took pity on me :eek:

I bring the army, he brings the luck :D

Rarely drink Scotch, but if you break out some Jack, the bottle's in trouble redface.gif

John

[dicemanrick]

How did I miss this????

(Too much World of warcraft on line&gt;&gt;&gt;)

Larry Chaban and I are coming...maybe we can get out of our SECOND PLACE RUT!!!

[David Schlanger]

Originally posted by dicemanrick:
How did I miss this????

(Too much World of warcraft on line&gt;&gt;&gt;)

Larry Chaban and I are coming...maybe we can get out of our SECOND PLACE RUT!!! I was wondering why you were so quiet... World of Warcraft sound like a disease! I guess the same thing could be said about DBA.

Good to hear you and Larry will be teaming up, it wouldn't be the same without you.

DS

[imported_J Bostwick]

Dave,

I know my brother David and His son Jason are planning on playing in the BBDBA. You can add them to the list.

If we send in enough Bostwicks then one of us is bound to win somthing

[David Schlanger]

Thanks for the update Jonathan. I am glad to hear we will have a full dose of Bostwicks!

DS

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by J Bostwick:

If we send in enough Bostwicks then one of us is bound to win somthing That ought to be a warcry -- "Send In The Bostwicks!"

You can think of lots of circumstances to use that warcry, too. For example:

"Light Brigade needs more men? Send in the Bostwicks!"

"Dangerous Mission? Send in the Bostwicks!"

"Alien Invasion? Send in the Bostwicks!"

"Lice Infestation? Send in the Bostwicks!"

"Chernobyl Meltdown? Send in the Bostwicks!"

"Suicide Mission? Send in the Bostwicks!"

As long as you don't run out of Bostwicks, this works great! :D

[Pthomas]

Need to wear down the Davids for the final?

"Send in the Bostwicks!"

Originally posted by David Kuijt:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by J Bostwick:

If we send in enough Bostwicks then one of us is bound to win somthing That ought to be a warcry -- "Send In The Bostwicks!"

You can think of lots of circumstances to use that warcry, too. For example:

"Light Brigade needs more men? Send in the Bostwicks!"

"Dangerous Mission? Send in the Bostwicks!"

"Alien Invasion? Send in the Bostwicks!"

"Lice Infestation? Send in the Bostwicks!"

"Chernobyl Meltdown? Send in the Bostwicks!"

"Suicide Mission? Send in the Bostwicks!"

As long as you don't run out of Bostwicks, this works great! :D </font>[/QUOTE]

[El' Jocko]

Originally posted by David Kuijt:
As long as you don't run out of Bostwicks, this works great! :D We've never run out of them in the past. I suspect that if they start to run low, they'll just make more.

- Jack

[imported_J Bostwick]

We have also considered cloning :)

[David Schlanger]

I think there is something in Bob's DBA commentary regarding cloning... where's the index when you need it?!?
http://www.frostjedi.com/phpbb/images/smiles/rotfsmiley.gif

[David Schlanger]

We are now at 17 known teams and counting with some serious grudge match potential...

Historicon 2005
Friday July 22
9AM - 6PM
Big Battle Doubles - 15mm.
Players bring own armies and terrain. Two players with equivalent of three DBA armies, if allies, must be those stated in the lists for the main army. Use same options for all games but command structure can change from game to game. Standard rules but 60 inch wide battlefield and minor deployment and victory changes which are featured at... http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/guides/NASAMWBigBattleDBA.html

Known Teams:
1) David Kuijt and David Schlanger
2) Martin Schmidt and Bob McDonald
3) Robert Runnels and Dan Henderson
4) Jack "the Butcher" and Tad "the Cleaver" Sheriff
5) Roland Fricke and Jon Baldwin
6) Joe Collins and Ed Dillon
7) Rob Torres and Doug Mudd
8) Jonathan and Alex Bostwick
9) Mark Pozniak and Eric Freiwald
10) The "Mystery" Team - Jeff Caruso and Chris Brantley
11) Larry Chaban and Rich Baier
12) John Manning and Andy Zartolas
13) Kim Young and John Loy
14) David and Jason Bostwick
15) Hank and Joseph Drapalski
16) Tom Powell-Bullock and Mark Fastoso
17) Shervin and Jonathan

Chickened Out:
1) Mike and Jason Stelzer

Please let me know if you plan to attend and participate. Also, please post if you would like to play, and need a partner or don't have enough figures to field a full Big Battle army, or if you just feel like commenting or whatever...

Looking for a Doubles partner:
Nobody???

DS

[ July 15, 2005, 09:15: Message edited by: David Schlanger ]

[xeswop]

Originally posted by David Schlanger:
I think there is something in Bob's DBA commentary regarding cloning... where's the index when you need it?!?
http://www.frostjedi.com/phpbb/images/smiles/rotfsmiley.gif Cloning is allowed if a player is directly 9 base widths behind the deployment edge of the battlefield and not within 900 paces of two battlefield edges unless one has a river no longer than 1.25 the distance between its ends extending 600 -700 paces toward the notional bisection of the center of the furthest Oasis. Then cloning is permitted if such a player rolls an even score on the die and has no dismountable element in its BUA unless the General is beyond 1200p of the die roll.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~beattie/bmc/avatars/whohoosmiley.gif

[ July 11, 2005, 18:18: Message edited by: Bob.(& his dog) ]

[El' Jocko]

Originally posted by Bob.(& his dog):
Cloning is allowed if a player is directly 9 base widths behind the deployment edge of the battlefield and not within 900 paces of two battlefield edges unless one has a river no longer than 1.25 the distance between its ends extending 600 -700 paces toward the notional bisection of the center of the furthest Oasis. Then cloning is permitted if such a player rolls an even score on the die and has no dismountable element in its BUA unless the General is beyond 1200p of the die roll.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~beattie/bmc/avatars/whohoosmiley.gif DBMM comes to DBA? :eek:

- Jack

[ July 11, 2005, 18:29: Message edited by: El' Jocko ]

[Chris Brantley]

Come-on you guys...always cloning around! ;)

[David Schlanger]

15 teams and cloning, I mean counting...

[Ed Dillon]

Originally posted by Chris Brantley:
Come-on you guys...always cloning around! ;) &lt;strains of show tune music&gt;
Send in the clones, there have to clones...
&lt;end music&gt;

Yeah, it looks like some of these battles may be fought over Clone-tarf...

Maybe the Brothers David will end up being bad to the clone...
...or maybe they'll end up sacrificed (via obsidious knife) at Clone-henge.

It could be that they run up against a clone wall.

If Chris punishes us anymore, HE could end up all a-clone...

:rolleyes:

[ July 13, 2005, 08:15: Message edited by: Ed Dillon ]

[David Schlanger]

We're up to 16 teams, which is a fantastic turnout!

DS

[David Kuijt]

Originally posted by Ed Dillon:
[various horrid puns deleted with extreme prejudice]
Ed... must... die... :mad:

[Pthomas]

Originally posted by David Kuijt:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ed Dillon:
[various horrid puns deleted with extreme prejudice]
Ed... must... die... :mad: </font>[/QUOTE]Ah...a weakness! Can the king be knocked off his clone?

[Martian]

Hey now!

All this stuff belongs over in the Trash Talk thread!

[ July 13, 2005, 12:06: Message edited by: Martian ]

[Pozanias]

Originally posted by Pthomas:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by David Kuijt:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ed Dillon:
[various horrid puns deleted with extreme prejudice]
Ed... must... die... :mad: </font>[/QUOTE]Ah...a weakness! Can the king be knocked off his clone? </font>[/QUOTE]Oh, that's some good punning.
:D

Keep it up boys and the Davids will be on their knees, and then some of us mere mortals can swoop in and win the title.

Sorry Marty.

[Rock]

....if I can only clinch third place, I can get another rock from Bob's garden.... :cool:

[xeswop]

Sorry, I do those only for events I run myself :(

Maybe Marty will bring one from the launch pad for the BB. This year mine are from the Wolverine Tower at a major midwest university.

[Ed Dillon]

Originally posted by Bob.(& his dog):
Sorry, I do those only for events I run myself :(

Maybe Marty will bring one from the launch pad for the BB. This year mine are from the Wolverine Tower at a major midwest university. Are next year's clones err, stones coming from a Badger Burrow, sacked by Wolverines?
(man, if THAT doesn't start some trash talkin,...)
:D
Ed

[Ed Dillon]

Originally posted by Pozanias:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Pthomas:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by David Kuijt:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ed Dillon:
[various horrid puns deleted with extreme prejudice]
Ed... must... die... :mad: </font>[/QUOTE]Ah...a weakness! Can the king be knocked off his clone? </font>[/QUOTE]Oh, that's some good punning.
:D

Keep it up boys and the Davids will be on their knees, and then some of us mere mortals can swoop in and win the title.

Sorry Marty. </font>[/QUOTE]Are you suggesting that they'll end up getting knead? Now that's a twist that I didn't see. Can they rise above it, or is thay only D.K.'s blood pressure? Or will they succumb to the needling? Will their hopes, and army, get rolled out flat and toasted? Are they glutens for PUNishment? Do we really need to fear David nee Kuijt?

Ed must die? Well of course. Three times just for movement PIPs each turn, unless Joe also dies some. And then there's a die for every bound of every combat.

Ed

[David Schlanger]

Ed, I'm sorry to do this, but you are suspended for 20 games of BBDBA for not controlling your punsmanship. ;)

Dave

[Ed Dillon]

But I have good punmenship... :(
Besides, it's all Chris's (Hail Imperator!) fault. He started it. tongue.gif

BTW, you'll be happy to note that I have been painting up some more sheep so that I can um, flock my bases properly...

[ July 16, 2005, 02:31: Message edited by: Ed Dillon ]

[Jeff Caruso]

quote:
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originally posted by Mr.Ed:
BTW, you'll be happy to note that I have been painting up some more sheep so that I can um, flock my bases properly...
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Ed,

Do you dip your flock? :rolleyes:

Jeff

[David Schlanger]

Well, only two days to go, hope you all have safe travel to Historicon. Please remember to officially sign up once you arrive at the Con!

Here's my final list of known teams planning to play on Friday:

1) David Kuijt and David Schlanger
2) Martin Schmidt and Bob McDonald
3) Robert Runnels and Dan Henderson
4) Jack "the Butcher" and Tad "the Cleaver" Sheriff
5) Roland Fricke and Jon Baldwin
6) Joe Collins and Ed Dillon
7) Rob Torres and Doug Mudd
8) Jonathan and Alex Bostwick
9) Mark Pozniak and Eric Freiwald
10) The "Mystery" Team - Jeff Caruso and Chris Brantley
11) Larry Chaban and Rich Baier
12) John Manning and Andy Zartolas
13) Kim Young and John Loy
14) David and Jason Bostwick
15) Hank and Joseph Drapalski
16) Tom Powell-Bullock and Mark Fastoso
17) Shervin and Jonathan

[Pthomas]

Let the beer and the banter flow!

And consider chosing a nick name for each person in the touney before you finsh up. I like Ed 'Marshal' Dillon to start. Only fitting for the pun master.

[David Kuijt]

DS will post the stats when he recovers his brain.

Very short summary:

There were 20 teams overall, by far the most ever.

The games were all tremendous fun, at least the ones I participated in or saw happening.

The teams were split into two groups of 6 and two groups of 4; one winner advanced out of each group.

The group winners were:
</font> Darius Kuijt and Darius Schlanger, playing triple Later Achaemenid Persian</font> Jeff Caruso and Chris Brantley, playing triple Later Imperial Roman</font> Roland Fricke and Jon Baldwin, playing triple Early Burgundian</font> David Bostwick and Jason Bostwick, playing double West Frankish with Viking ally.</font>
In the semifinals the Bostwicks disposed of Jeff Caruso and the Imperator -- I'm sorry I didn't get to see any of that game. The other semifinal game was between the Army of Two Dariuses (Darii?) and Roland and Jon's Burgundians. The Burgundians, fearing (respecting?) the maneuver ability of the Dread Darii, refused both flanks with bow-supported artillery batteries and advanced with extreme strength up the middle with dismounting knights. The battle was very tense and crowded and tight, but their attack couldn't get fully formed and desperate maneuvering by the Darii kept things tight until advancing pressure on the Burgundian C-in-C's flank forced them to start taking risks, and finally their C-in-C started taking casualties. It was two elements from breaking when the battle was called for time.

The finals were thus three Davids and a Jason -- Darius, Darius, D. Bostwick, and Jas. Bostwick. We fought the finals on Saturday morning. This was perhaps the most exciting game of the whole tournament, a classic battle of power against maneuver. The wall of Frankish knights went charging forward, trying to get to grips, constrict space, and cause casualties before the Persian maneuver command came streaming in to reinforce their bigpip command. Things looked very (very!) touch-and-go for a number of bounds, but finally the trickling reinforcements started blocking up the holes that the Franks were causing, and numbers, mobility, and pip advantage started to tell. The Franks caused many more casualties, but the Persians could afford to lose far more (breaking both commands on that flank would have required 13 elements lost, considering that two were Scythed Chariots). The pip advantage was also tremendous -- by the time the Frankish assault was starting to lose momentum there were elements from all three Persian commands fighting against them, and every single pip on the Persian side (all three dice) were being applied to counteract the one high-pip dice of the Franks. Flesh and blood can only stand so much, and eventually the Franks started going down, and doing so their line became broken up and more fragmented, and more vulnerable, and the end came.

The Vikings and the Frankish foot never got engaged against the weaker Persian micro-walls of kardakes and Greek mercenaries; late in the game the Vikings did manage to recoil a pair of Persian psiloi.

This was another tremendous tournament. I think the quality of play has really gone up -- a couple of years ago there were fewer teams, and many of them had much less skill. This tournament we had no enemy that didn't present us with a difficult battle and a difficult tactical problem -- every battle was risky and close, and could well have gone either way. Big Battle Doubles is still the coolest game on earth.

[David Schlanger]

Thanks to everyone who participated! It was a wonderful turnout for a fantastic competition. We had 20 teams (40 participants) for what surely must have been not only the coolest game on earth, but the biggest BBDBA event in our history!!!

Here's a breakdown of the 20 teams, and how they were split into groups based on period. Group winners advanced to single elimination semi-finals and final rounds.

There were ten 3x armies, nine 2x armies with ally, and one 1x army with two allies.

I will post detailed results later...

DS

BBDBA Doubles at Historicon 2005 Participants and Groups:

Greek Classical Group:

1) Mark Pozniak and Eric Freiwald
Army: II/5 Athenian with Thessalian and Theban allies - 450BC.

2) Robert Runnels and Dan Henderson
Army: II/23b Later Pre-Islamic Arab City with II/23a Later Pre-Islamic Arab Nomad ally - 312BC.

3) Darius Kuijt and Darius Schlanger
Army: II/7 Later Achaemenid Persian - 331BC.

4) Tim Hladan and Larry Stone
Army: II/32 Later Carthaginian - 225BC.

Roman Classical Group:

5) Mark Fastoso and Tom Powell-Bullock
Army: II/49 Marian Roman with II/28b Armenian (other) ally - 51BC.

6) Jonathan Miller and Shervin Boloorian
Army: II/37 Parthian with II/23a Later Pre-Islamic Arab Nomad ally - 51BC.

7) John Loy and Kim Young
Army: II/56 Early Imperial Roman - 0AD.

8) Jonathan and Alex Bostwick
Army: II/53 Ancient British with II/56 Early Imperial Roman ally - 62AD.

9) Doug Mudd and Rob Torres
Army: II/78b Late Imperial Roman (East) with Later Pre-Islamic Arab Nomad ally - 375AD.

10) Jeff Caruso and Chris Brantley
Army: II/83b Patrician Roman (East) - 425AD.

Dark Ages and Steppes Group:

11) Joe Jr. and Lou Coniglio
Army: III/51 Western Frank - 888AD.

12) David and Jason Bostwick
Army: III/51 Western Frank with III/40b Viking ally - 900AD.

13) Jack "the Butcher" and Peter "the Cleaver" Sheriff
Army: III/75 Konstantian Byzantine with III/70a Georgian ally.

14) Larry Chaban and Rich Baier
Army: IV/3 Anglo-Norman - 1073AD.

15) Marty Schmidt and Bob McDonald
Army: IV/1b Komnenan Byzantine with IV/17 Later Crusader ally - 1150AD.

16) Joseph and Vincent Coniglio
Army: III/66 His-Hsia with III/15 Tibetan ally - 1200AD.

Medieval Group:

17) Stephen Baier and Jim Dundorf
Army: IV/62 100 Yrs War English - 1322AD.

18) Jon Baldwin and Roland Fricke
Army: IV/76 Early Burgundian - 1400AD.

19) Joe Collins and Ed Dillon
Army: IV/82 French Ordonnance - 1464AD

20) Hank and Joe Drapalski
Army: IV/83b War of the Roses English - 1487AD

[Ed Dillon]

Originally posted by Pthomas:
Let the beer and the banter flow!

And consider chosing a nick name for each person in the touney before you finsh up. I like Ed 'Marshal' Dillon to start. Only fitting for the pun master. You could consider it, but it doesn't really apply. I'm not all that artistic. I don't draw all that well...

But I'll offer up my own and that is Hank "The Dreaded" Drapalski. He's big, he's bad. Let's get that man some tights, a cloak, and a black mask and he's ready for the studio wrastlin' circuit...

[ July 27, 2005, 07:13: Message edited by: Ed Dillon ]

[Jeff Caruso]

I've already chosen an army for BBDBA for 2006.What is it, enquiring minds want to know?Too soon to tell.That would spoil it,wouldn't it? ;) Now to start building it.

Jeff