hoplites, early romans, spanish and celt painting project

[Paul Potter]

hoplites, early roman types, a stand of early Spanish and some celts. these are all 15mm:

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii114/potterfamilyinbg/003-55.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii114/potterfamilyinbg/002-72.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii114/potterfamilyinbg/001-82.jpg

-Paul

[Ammianus]

We're glad you're not sitting idle Paul!:)

[kontos]

Its been 56 minutes since you posted, Paul. Are you done with them yet? :D

[Ivan]

I love Tin Soldier!:up

[Paul Potter]

Its been 56 minutes since you posted, Paul. Are you done with them yet? :D

yes I am.

no, not really. but I did get some paint on the horses tonight:

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii114/potterfamilyinbg/001-85.jpg

-Paul

[Redwilde]

Yay! Nice to see them coming along :)

(these are my commissions)

[Paul Potter]

added some olor to the chariots today and started on the hopolites:

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii114/potterfamilyinbg/004-39.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii114/potterfamilyinbg/003-60.jpg

-Paul

[geekmeter11]

Paul, you're slipping. You usually have 5 armies done by now. :D

[Redwilde]

That's OK, there's still a month to go before Havoc :)

[Paul Potter]

finally able to get back to these tonight. added some more color (geekmeter, I am slipping):

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii114/potterfamilyinbg/001-88.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii114/potterfamilyinbg/002-78.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii114/potterfamilyinbg/003-61.jpg

-Paul

[Paul Potter]

These are done, well not really, I'll let them sit a day or two and go back and look them over for needed touch ups:

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii114/potterfamilyinbg/004-41.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii114/potterfamilyinbg/003-62.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii114/potterfamilyinbg/002-79.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii114/potterfamilyinbg/001-89.jpg

-Paul

[Redwilde]

Very nice!

Now I have to finish up the shields that will eventually go on those Tin Soldier hoplites. The hay carts are done and ready for the oxen.

[Redwilde]

Hopla for the hoplites, face colours now awaiting blazons. This block of hoplites, the blue group, is the 3rd group of Tin Soldiery goodness for morphing Syracuse/Italiot/Siciliot/Whatever.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WHlSwvYU0Qc/T0pg2YC1AUI/AAAAAAAAAX4/PZcRIsjmRvc/s640/Hopla.JPG

And previously show in the Scratch Building thread, the Spanish farm and hay-carts are getting ready for the oxen. The greenstuff on the front one will be painted flames after the rest of the model has been Dullcoted.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mCIxgjCB6yg/T0EjhhqQbjI/AAAAAAAAAVw/WoEH9rcRycY/s640/CampCarts.JPG

[Redwilde]

The painted figs all arrived safely today and are looking great! I'll be gluing them onto bases tonight (while watching Polanski's MacBeth for those of you who have been following that discussion). Will post pics in the near future after they're flocked.

I highly recommend Paul for commission work! Very reasonable rates and quick turnaround :2up

This has been a huge help in making sure I have plenty of armies to go around for the events I'm running at Havoc in a few weeks. After basing these, it's back to painting Carthos for me to finish up my end of the Havoc work.

[Redwilde]

I added a little more detailing including cloak stripes to brighten them up, based and varnished the figures.

Pix of the Italian and Spanish camps, and oxcarts are over here http://fanaticus.org/discussion/showthread.php?p=143885#post143885

Gauls are still in progress.

And here's the Italian army. It's built primarily as II/8b Campanians, but can be morphed into the other options. Figures are mostly Old Glory, the stand of bareheaded auxilia are Tin Soldier Apulians.

3 Cav, General has the shields

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Yi6Ju14m5fU/T1eCerLXneI/AAAAAAAAAbs/N_hl_n5xBWg/s640/CampCav.JPG

4 Spear, front

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MJA9LbC-qgE/T1eCh0cLgcI/AAAAAAAAAcE/6wI3DuJr3Z0/s640/CampSpF.JPG

4 Spear, rear, also showing base extenders that allow them to be converted to Ax for the Bruttian, Lucanian, or Apulian lists

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ohasGeCOY3s/T1eChNhA1OI/AAAAAAAAAb8/UdXLyOvbMG4/s640/CampSpAxB.JPG

2 Psiloi, extra wire javelins added to the shield hands

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-i1SLbvz7d58/T1eCfsYEYmI/AAAAAAAAAb0/b3Jee_PIRjI/s640/CampPs.JPG

[Redwilde]

And the rest of the Italian Auxilia. Again with a bit more trim added, AMPW says these guys liked brightly decorated clothing!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-epgwbdmHpAE/T1eCcQ5bu_I/AAAAAAAAAbE/Icf5q84TWUY/s640/Camp2AxF.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ak0f1-t5Epw/T1eCcrBR6CI/AAAAAAAAAbI/bJsh91UkTAA/s640/Camp2AxB.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yatex8rdYEw/T1eCdt0cQ1I/AAAAAAAAAbc/8KDqDQjeQF8/s640/Camp3AxF.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xFluHnXXRtg/T1eCcw-sNxI/AAAAAAAAAbU/1u1qWOyV0J4/s640/Camp3AxB.JPG

[Paul Potter]

They look good. I like the basing, good job on the touch ups, very impressed with the auxillia conversion bases. like the work on the carts, look forward to seeing the finished flames. -paul

[Adrian Bryan]

Very very impressive indeed! and all nice paint jobs also :up

[Redwilde]

The basing is my usual technique of grabbing pinches of a few different shades of Woodland Scenics fine turf, plus some bits of medium turf/foliage for the psiloi who tend to hang out in bad going. And for this army, some pinches of some fine brown ballast too for rocks.

I use slightly different colour blends for each army. The Spanish army that I based at the same time as this got some pinches of dried tea leaves for their own colour/texture bits where they live instead of the ballast.

The touch up was just a quick evening's work with brush and pen.

[Redwilde]

The 4 chariots, campers, and pair of foot command figures Paul painted are getting added onto an EBay Gallic army purchase. This was originally a no-options Gallic army sans chariots: 2Cv, 9Wb, 1Ps (and cheap!). 4 Chariots gives it a British option, and just more charioty flavour for the Gauls.

Before I flock the chariots and Menhir camp, I needed to rearrange the basing on some of the infantry.

To make room for the foot command, 2 javelin figures got bumped onto a new 2nd stand of psiloi. That will also allow this army to be fielded as Scots Irish or an Early German 3Wb army.

The other stands were nicely based, but the warband were poorly arranged with shields and weapons hanging out over the edges. 3 of the stands, I was able to repose all the problems in situ. The rest needed a figure fully cut off the base and reglued.

Now that's done, I can flock the chariots, camp, new psiloi, and touch up the re-arranged bases all at once.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mYPcJoUT1WI/T10G26dgSwI/AAAAAAAAAjU/fKIFKgA7oQE/s640/CeltWIP.JPG

[Ammianus]

Coming right along, nice!

[Matt]

Paul,

Nice work! :up

Who is the manufacturer of the Celtic chariots?

I am looking to expand my small chariot corps, and those look like they will mix well with my Corvus Belli chariots.

[Redwilde]

The single arch ones are Old Glory. The double arch one for the general is Mick Yarrow.

[Redwilde]

And now the Celts are ready to take the field. A full evenings work of paint touch up, especially on the EBay portion of the army. It's always a fun modelling challenge stirring up a cocktail to match somebody else's base flocking, as with the Chariots, Camp, and rearranged Command stand, and the resulting new stand of skirmishers so that they blended in with the rest of the army.

First up, Paul's chariots:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mci3oaSb4Qo/T2S9QSOPGaI/AAAAAAAAAlE/m2mxmkLdhNg/s640/CeltChariots.jpg

The Warband, with the General and pig-on-a-stick front and center:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jRzaCMZunMY/T2S9SueC1tI/AAAAAAAAAlc/f1J1AvoqRiQ/s640/CeltWarband.JPG

Cavalry:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3q2GXVuR7bI/T2S9SU0HIII/AAAAAAAAAlU/NmhmxFKxSbU/s640/CeltCav.JPG

And Skirmishers:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-I1zT0i4p0RE/T2S9Q8Y0oXI/AAAAAAAAAlM/DD-FvQEp_7I/s640/CeltSkirm.JPG

[Redwilde]

If this is Gaul, there must be Menhirs!

Carved from basswood for this camp. Lightly sprayed with several colours to get the speckled stone look.

Druids are Magister Militum, chicken-on-a-stick and the horn section are Old Glory.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-chf_auR9EfI/T2S9VR20d1I/AAAAAAAAAlk/4mcn4kLvsd4/s576/HengeBird.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OsLEkeEyMW0/T2S9VawnptI/AAAAAAAAAls/Me_QlEB8tTA/s640/HengeRear.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1QkvOQQM_NE/T2S9VxV0B7I/AAAAAAAAAlw/iXZMIFFj5zc/s640/HengeTop.JPG

[Ammianus]

I see the menhirs but where's Obelix?

[Redwilde]

These are gifts that Obelisk delivered earlier ^,^

[Terry37]

Redwilde, truly lovely work!!! I love the colors and especially the two shades on the shield of the cav guy at far right. May I ask what two colors you used for them?

[Redwilde]

Terry, thanks -- I have no idea what red that is. These figs came block coloured and dipped. The shields where all monochromatic to start with, so I added details on top of them. My paints are Model Masters enamels. These jars are still sitting where I was painting, so I can figure out the rest of that shield: Pale Green FS34227, Dunkelblau RLM24, and Afrika Grunbaun '41. Outlining with a black .005 Micron Art pen. If I had to touch up that red, I'd grab my jar of British Crimson.

These shields were quick detailing jobs to brighten up the army. My really fancy Celtic shields will get posted soon when I'm ready to post pix of the 1st Carthaginian army :D

[Matt]

Redwilde, great work! :up

I love your camp concepts! When do we get to see them in action?

Thanks for sharing.

[Redwilde]

Action shots coming in the very near future!

I'm doing a huge push getting armies ready to host a pair of Punic War 2.2+ events at Havoc (http://havoc.battlegroupboston.org/) here in Massachusetts next weekend. An 8 player big battle game, and a mini-tournament. Players can bring their own theme armies isf they have them. Havoc usually draws a lot of new players into DBA games, so I'm preparing to provide all the armies if needed.

They'll see the field again on May 12 for a big battle day at the Boston Trained Bands club. After Havoc, I'll be able to provide 4 Punic big battle armies: a triple Syracuse; a double Carthaginian with a choice of Campanian or Spanish ally; and two double Polybians with a choice of Gallic, Numidian, or Spanish ally. Other club members have a bunch of Book II armies and should be able to pool together some more options.

[Paul Potter]

Its looking good Redwilde, very impressive camp. -paul

[Redwilde]

And the Hoplites are now done and ready to join the great morphing pile of Tin Soldier delights. The hopla blazons were done with a mix of pen and brush.

The General's stand is the very blue one. I cut his spear down into a sword.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WWJOolaZbDc/T2pgKtoTroI/AAAAAAAAAnk/MKdey9TNdg0/s640/Hoplites1.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-410D6C3yiPw/T2pgLmpxNHI/AAAAAAAAAns/uliXnyfYKvs/s640/Hoplites2.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-tErDOQmjqBM/T2pgKL0uYFI/AAAAAAAAAnc/aBojDewOmsY/s640/Hoplites3.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VdOfuAo9xZI/T2pgLwIQI9I/AAAAAAAAAnw/Xc6tT6AuJjU/s640/Hoplites4.JPG

[Redwilde]

Figures for Phase IV of the great hoplite morph are primed.

2 more stands of spears (#23-24) will allow a 4th Syracuse army, or a triple of a number of Greeks.

4 more stands of Psiloi will allow a triple Siciliot.

4 more stands of Light Horse will allow a triple all options Italiot.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7BGPw4SogaU/T3Xnlch2eEI/AAAAAAAAAvw/i0bUSGGEPKY/s640/HoplitePrime.JPG

[Tony Aguilar]

I cut his spear down into a sword.


This is a great idea, Maureen.

I am using Tin Soldier for most of my current Ptolemaic project.
Their features are "different" and Ziggy-ish, but endearing.

[Redwilde]

I am using Tin Soldier for most of my current Ptolemaic project.
Their features are "different" and Ziggy-ish, but endearing.

Yeah. Overall I'm a figure snob, but these won me over long ago. :)

[Tony Aguilar]

Yeah. Overall I'm a figure snob, but these won me over long ago. :)

They ARE odd looking and a bit out of scale, but they have charm. (unlike Essex which I use as a last resort)

[Redwilde]

My high quality Greeks are Xyston Kyreneans. Great figures, but such a pain -- cast without spears, but with closed instead of open hands, grr. :???

Had to drill every one out, and it's a hard metal. No way I was using those for the expanding hoplite morph

[adamsg01]

My high quality Greeks are Xyston Kyreneans. Great figures, but such a pain -- cast without spears, but with closed instead of open hands, grr. :???

Had to drill every one out, and it's a hard metal. No way I was using those for the expanding hoplite morph

That another reason I really like the Tin Soldiers. I have just about finished some Xyston's but the drilling 1mm holes is driving me crazy. I also had problems with some of the pikemen as their hands were so tiny drilling just turned them into a mangle rather than a hand. Having said that I do like Xyston figs and their range is still expanding with some really interesting figs - I just try and buy the guys with swords :o)

Your Hoplites look great and I like the blue colour - it ties them all in as a cohesive unit. I have used LBM transfers (made for xystons) to do up the TS shields. They look pretty good too :o)

The army is coming on very nicely.

cheers
G.

[Matt]

And the Hoplites are now done and ready to join the great morphing pile of Tin Soldier delights. The hopla blazons were done with a mix of pen and brush.

The General's stand is the very blue one. I cut his spear down into a sword.



Redwilde,

Army is coming along nicely. Great job on the shields! Not sure I lke the Tin Soldier figs, but know what you are saying about drilling out Xyston hands.

[Redwilde]

When do we get to see them in action?


Well, I was a bit slow in getting the photos up -- but here's a big battle report from Havoc: http://fanaticus.org/discussion/showthread.php?t=12991

[Redwilde]

To add more options to the Punic Wars big battle armies on hand, I picked up one of Peter Wort's painted Gallic armies. This was short 2 warband stands, so I needed to paint those up. Plus I added a second psiloi stand for various Celto-German morphs.

For the warband I took the extra Old Glory Oscan Javelinmen left over from the morphing Italian army, deplumed their helmets and carved some of the javelins down into swords. The slingers are Old Glory Numidians with some northern hair colouring and jeggings painted on.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JB0a_4XYHMY/T6wOM7U10mI/AAAAAAAAA54/1mzcGE1roMA/s640/CisAlpB.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mQd0IrUYL7A/T6wOMpMHwgI/AAAAAAAAA5w/NVZe7WVQ2dU/s640/CisAlpF.JPG

It's always a fun challenge stirring up a recipe to match somebody else's basing materials. The static grass I have on hand is a different shade than Peter's, but matches well enough. I also sprinkled a few bits of my tealeaf ground scatter on all the bases to tie the lot together. Just did some minor touch up work on his fantastic painting -- drybrushed highlights onto the clothing and horses, and did detail outlining with a pen.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2pzllXGz6E8/T6wOOZBZpDI/AAAAAAAAA6A/MTbN262XHBM/s640/Gaul2.JPG

[Ammianus]

Nice looking army, wish I didn't have to paint mine!

[HereWego]

Top notch painting :2up

[Redwilde]

A quick paint job on a 10 more stands of Tin Soldiery goodness, and call it one more army in the morphin' pile.

Hoplite stands #23-24 for the Red Group. This now allows a triple army of many Hoplite variations, or a quad Syracuse. 2 of the figs have their spears cut down into swords for an optional General's stand. 1 Sp stand in each group gets monochrome helmet crests for rapid recognition as the General.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mzdKwVCL3dc/UD0TfqLrVpI/AAAAAAAABNA/OtxW7zPP29I/s640/DSCN2319.JPG

Psiloi stands #6-9, 3 for Blue Group and 1 for Red. This allows a triple Siciliot option:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XiW2vzdpA6Q/UD0TgtT_Z4I/AAAAAAAABNI/5NbtCuGBuvM/s640/DSCN2318.JPG

And Light Horse stands #6-9, 3 for Blue, 1 for Yellow. This allows a triple Italiot:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6g_ENYkLSXQ/UD0TgYkgeBI/AAAAAAAABNM/zz30F7HDffk/s640/DSCN2317.JPG

Lots more options now for the Punic Wars big battle games ^,^

This is the last of these for the forseeable future. If I ever place another Tin Soldier order (or just come across the figures somewhere), then I'll pick up figs for 2-5 more hoplitish Auxilia stands for more options within some of the army lists.

[HereWego]

Your Celts are very well done. Thumps up :up